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Barr has said that every page received had been stamped with the warning that it may contain stuff that needs redacting which is why he hasn't released yet. He has also said that he doesn't want to release piece by piece. Apparently the summaries were actually part of the report.
I also think that the committee requesting the original will probably get it too. What I want to know is why is Mueller's grand jury still running!
Barr has also said that Mueller has been helping him with the redactions. This appears to mean that Mueller seems to be onboard Barr's actions. My own thought is that they colluded to make everybody wait just to see which side won the bonkers battle, thereby reducing some pressure and providing them with a bit of levity during this trying time.
Just a thought...............
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Near as I can tell there's a sh*t load of stuff from grand jury investigations and none of that can be released. By the time the Mueller Report hits Democratic hands it will be redacted to the point of illegibility.
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That may, or may not be true. The simple fact is that they are not saying anything so we wait until its released. My hope is that they will release two things. The first for general consumption and the other handed just as the house handles any other secrets. They do that almost every day so there is really no reason why they won't get the whole ball of wax. Right now we wait, whine, cry, and accuse. My hope, if I am right, is that the Dems have the common sense to apologize if it all works out instead of huffing and puffing.
There is, for instance, the senate bill to fix immigration - with a FEW fixes it might serve as a beginning?
I have hope, if I am wrong THEN its really time to have at them all.
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There's a lot of Grand Jury stuff, but typically that stuff is secret until the jury is dismissed. So what is the Grand Jury still doing? Are some more people going to be indicted?
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My understanding is that as long as there are no indictments then the grand jury investigation remains secret to protect innocent parties.
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This just in... Redaction of Mueller Report Halted as Barr Passes Out from Sharpie Fumes
By Andy Borowitz10:45 A.M. The New Yorker
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Barr said, this morning, that the report will be out within a week.
I also heard that several house Dems have announced that they want the entire report so that they can release it all to the public. I guess they want to release information on other investigations, testimony from the grand jury, listing all non-guilty who testified, revealing sources and procedures, etc.
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Doesn't matter what they want. They will get nothing that might incriminate Trump.
Nothing.
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You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete. R. Buckminster Fuller
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I think this is an excellent example demonstrating Mr Trump's stupidity. None of the information in that article should trouble Mr Trump. None of his supporters care if he is a mobster, stealing millions from everyone including the US. His personal life and life style don't matter. Mr Trump is a bigot which speaks to his base. This is the only thing they care about. Mr Trump is one of them ... and they love him for it.
When he realizes none of it matters and the appropriate time comes when he can spin the news to make himself look good, he will shrug it off, and his base will not care.
ignorance is the enemy without equality there is no liberty Save America - Lock Trump Up!!!!
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