Originally Posted by NW Ponderer
[quote=Senator Hatrack] The people you call undocumented immigrants is to use the BS politically correct term for illegal immigrants.
Why do you insist so vociferously being wrong? I use the legally correct term, rather than the politically-motivated incorrect term. The vast majority of undocumented immigrants are "visa overstays" - an administrative term. They are not "illegal immigrants". Some are asylum seekers. Again, not "illegal". DHS uses the term "Unauthorized Immigrant Population" - not illegal aliens. Why? Because, my friend, that is a term of art, and applies only specifically to aliens who are "illegally present" and
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Section 1252(c) of the "Aliens and Nationality" laws is titled: "Authorizing State and local law enforcement officials to arrest and detain certain illegal aliens." The section authorizes state and local law enforcement officials "to arrest and detain an individual who— (1) is an alien illegally present in the United States; and (2) has previously been convicted of a felony in the United States and deported or left the United States after such conviction."
So, in spades, you're wrong.
A visa grants the person who has it a the legal right to be in the country that issued it. If you "overstay" the visa you are breaking the law. Nor are they "undocumented." A visa is a legal document thus the people who have them have documentation of their permission to be in a country for a certain length of time. It is you NW Ponderer who is wrong, not me.

For the record my father was the Icelandic Consul for the state of MN. As the Consul he could and did issue visas to Icelanders visiting the US. When he did he explained to them that the visa he was given them was a legal document which allowed them to stay in the US until their visa expired. If they stayed longer than the visa allowed they were breaking the law.

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