Originally Posted by NW Ponderer
I'll gladly take that mantle, as the list of accomplishments so outstrips the "horribles" that they become almost irrelevant. Let's compare notes, shall we? Starting at the top, and sticking with the last century:

Warren G. Harding: Known for -Teapot Dome. 'nuff said.
Yes, the Harding administration is known for the Teapot Dome scandal. However, it was the people in his administration who are responsible for the scandal not Harding. Being inept and an overly trusting person was Harding's crime, not the Teapot Dome scandal.
Originally Posted by NW Ponderer
Calvin Coolidge: The Great Depression.
You are trying to blame Coolidge for the Great Depression? You are blaming Coolidge for something that did not start until he had been out of office for almost two years? If he is then the ALL of the economic recovery we are currently enjoying is due to Trump and Obama had nothing to do with it!
Originally Posted by NW Ponderer
Hoover: Smoot-Hawley; Hoovervilles. On the plus side, Glass-Steagall Act of 1932 (predecessor to the Glass-Steagall we know); and the socialist programs of Reconstruction Finance Corporation; Federal Home Loan Bank Act; Emergency Relief and Construction Act.
You will get no debate from me on Hoover, Smoot, and Hawley for being primarily responsible for the Great Depression. Your “plus” side is only a plus if you believe that government intervention solves economic problems. Since you call the other programs socialist I imagine that there probably isn’t a government intervention in our economy you would oppose.
Originally Posted by NW Ponderer
Franklin Roosevelt... Well, too many to list, New Deal (SSA, among others).
The New Deal? Without the help of viruently racist southern Democrats the New Deal programs would not have passed. In order to get some of the New Deal programs passed FDR convinced Democrats from other states to allow the southern Democrats to prevent anti-lynching laws from being passed. Also the conditions of southern blacks were made much worse due many of the New Deal programs, such as the AAA, the WPA, the NIRA (AKA the NRA), and Social Security. Then there is FDR’s appointment of a member of the KKK, Hugo Black, to the Supreme Court. And you have the gall to call Republicans racist? The programs you cherish would not have been created without the help of the racist Southern Democrats!
Originally Posted by NW Ponderer
Harry Truman: Finished WWII, brought US into UN; The Marshall Plan, Berlin Airlift.
In July of 1945 a Swedish diplomat, Allen Dulles, and the Japanese Army legation, headed by Lt. Gen. Seigo Okamoto, in Basle, Switzerland created a peace treaty that would have ended WWII that month and without dropping the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The Swedish diplomat was my grandfather, Per Jacobsson. (He missed my parents wedding to work on the peace treaty.) There would not have been a UN for the US to join if FDR did not pick former Governor Harold Stassen (R-MN) to be on the Founding Conference. Stassen was a primary author of the UN’s Charter. He was also a friend of my family and me. The UN has become a corrupt club run by third world dictators. It is not the organization that Stassen helped create.
Originally Posted by NW Ponderer
Eisenhower: NASA, Interstate Highway System;
No argument there.
Originally Posted by NW Ponderer
Kennedy: Space program; Cuban Missle Crisis; Green Berets; proposed tax reductions; Limited Nuclear Test Ban Treaty. Richard Nixon (whom he tried to jettison), the Vietnam War, Bay of Pigs.
The Cuban Missile Crisis would probably not have happened if Kennedy, NOT Nixon, had not launched the Bay of Pigs invasion! Giving Kennedy credit for pulling his ass out of crisis he created is hardly something to brag about.
Originally Posted by NW Ponderer
Johnson: Great Society programs (Medicare, Medicaid); Civil Rights Act.
The Great Society is a complete failure! Our government spent over $17 trillion to eliminate poverty and poverty is still as bad today as it was before the Great Society started is not a successful program. Medicare is a success? That program is a $70 to $100 trillion unfunded liability for our government. It was LBJ’s Gulf of Tonkin resolution is what escalated the Vietnam War. The ONLY reason LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act into law was because Senate Republicans led by Everett Dirksen broke the filibuster of the southern Democrats!


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