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LOL yeah. What is it about this administration that's working so well for Republicans?

Conviction in the Senate is no longer important. In fact it is preferable that they do not for the very reason you mentions, Loggy.
Senators are going to lose seats over this.

The glittering blue path to Global Utopian Social Democracy has never been brighter. 2020 is a done deal at this point.

Of course there is absolutely no possibility that the whistle blowers might be lying? That they are partisan? That anytime anyone anywhere someone says Pres. Trump did something wrong the are 100% credible? The DOJ said that a crime was not committed in Trump's call to the Ukrainian President. NPR DOJ

Because the Republican Senators won't vote to convict Trump, because logtroll wants them to, they are corrupt.

You missed the logic, Senator. Probably because you refuse to see the perfectly visible corruption of King Kon.

One can't miss what isn't there. Just because someone disagrees with you does not make them corrupt!

What you are missing is that the motive you ascribe to me is of temious provenance.


Are you taking the position that Trump is not obviously a paragon of corruption?

"Do us a favor though..." is English for quid pro quo.

Let the Republican Senate not convict Trump - that is their peril in November 2020.

I think we have to look at which GOP senators are up for reelection, possible look at one Democrat also. Jones, Alabama where Trump has an approval rating of 61% voting for impeachment would doom him. Another Democrat to keep an eye on is Manchin, West Virginia, he's not up for reelection, but Trump has an approval rating of 61% there. That's the two possible Democratic defections which would mean if they vote the wishes and wants of the people of their state which supposedly they represent, instead of what their party wants. That means the Democrats need 22 GOP senators to vote to convict.

On the Republican side those up for reelection in 2020, Collins, Maine is probably a sure convict. Gardner, Colorado along with McSally, Arizona, probably not even though it would cost Gardner his seat, McSally, maybe, maybe not. Trump is down to 41% in Colorado, 47% in Arizona. Ernst, Iowa is another possible vote to convict, Trump is at 42% in Iowa. I don't see any other GOP senator up for reelection that would vote to convict as of today or tonight.

Murkowski, Alaska who isn't up could join the convict side. Her and Trump don't get along. Who else?

We've ended the era of polarization, where most red states have two Republican senators and most blue states two Democrats. The era when quite a lot of states had one of each is long gone. That's sad in a way as senators have become more of a servant to their political party than a servant to the people of their state. Voting the wishes of their political party and ignoring the wishes of the people of their state.

Yet, infinitely deeper than yours. SHR, you mistake me and disparage me unfairly. I only ridicule those who richly deserve it.

I requested a response based upon fact. I wish I'd received one. Now, I will concede that there was a fact, a nugget, nestled deep in your misbegotten tirade. The DOJ branch of the Trump personal attorney corps did issue make perfunctory, conclusory statement. But the characterization in the article was, shall we say, "lacking" in context and content.

No, what I ascribe to you is your erroneous belief that because most of the Republican Senators will not vote to convict and remove Trump from office they are corrupt. Whatever ethical difficulties Trump might have the Republican Senators, and some Democratic Senators, will not vote to convict because they want to stay in office. While that might be considered corruption by some it is unfortunately politics as usual.