Originally Posted by pdx rick
Originally Posted by Senator Hatrack
If Trump is impeached by the House the chances that there will be 67 Senators who will vote to convict him is highly unlikely. When the Senate does not convict Trump he will remain in office.
"Do us a favor though..." is English for quid pro quo.

Let the Republican Senate not convict Trump - that is their peril in November 2020.

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I think we have to look at which GOP senators are up for reelection, possible look at one Democrat also. Jones, Alabama where Trump has an approval rating of 61% voting for impeachment would doom him. Another Democrat to keep an eye on is Manchin, West Virginia, he's not up for reelection, but Trump has an approval rating of 61% there. That's the two possible Democratic defections which would mean if they vote the wishes and wants of the people of their state which supposedly they represent, instead of what their party wants. That means the Democrats need 22 GOP senators to vote to convict.

On the Republican side those up for reelection in 2020, Collins, Maine is probably a sure convict. Gardner, Colorado along with McSally, Arizona, probably not even though it would cost Gardner his seat, McSally, maybe, maybe not. Trump is down to 41% in Colorado, 47% in Arizona. Ernst, Iowa is another possible vote to convict, Trump is at 42% in Iowa. I don't see any other GOP senator up for reelection that would vote to convict as of today or tonight.

Murkowski, Alaska who isn't up could join the convict side. Her and Trump don't get along. Who else?

We've ended the era of polarization, where most red states have two Republican senators and most blue states two Democrats. The era when quite a lot of states had one of each is long gone. That's sad in a way as senators have become more of a servant to their political party than a servant to the people of their state. Voting the wishes of their political party and ignoring the wishes of the people of their state.


It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.