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I imagine those be the same people who are trying to decide what strategy the very stable genius is implementing in his foreign policy actions?

The strategy in all of Trump's actions is that of the con.

-Morpheus

...because Trump's already known commodities of being a liar, cheater, welsher and womanizer prior to becoming POTUS needed more evidence that Trump should not be President.

The fact is the democrats choose about the only Democrat, alive or dead, that could possibly lose to Trump. Trump is a direct result of the choices, decisions and actions by both major parties taken back in 2016. The two major parties gave us a choice of one candidate in which 56% of all Americans view her negatively, the other candidate was viewed by 60% of all Americans unfavorably. Both records for the highest unfavorable's ever in our history or as long as Gallup and Pew Research have been keeping track of these things. The previous highest unfavorable of any major party candidate was 47% set by Barry Goldwater back in 1964. Both Clinton and Trump smashed that record.

We even had 25% of all Americans who didn't want neither candidate to become their next president. So most folks went to the polls voting for the candidate they wanted to lose the least. Not for either candidate, but against the candidate disliked the most. I call 2016 the anti election.

Trump could have been easily avoided with a decent opponent. Even back in February of 2016 a poll gave good advance warning when 56% of all Americans said they wanted the Democrats to nominate someone other than Hillary Clinton. The Democrats didn't listen to America as a whole, ignored all of America and went ahead and nominated Hillary. That was their right, no doubt about that. We both know all of America doesn't choose the nominees, the two major parties do. But all of America chooses the president in the general election. I wonder if the Democrats have learned that valuable lesson from 2016, that candidates matter. Especially to independents who gave Trump the White House.

The actual 2016 popular vote numbers disagree with you.

Additionally, Trump requested Russian assistance, Trump received Russian assistance, Trump benefitted from Russian assistance, Trump awarded Russian assistance. Trump’s campaign team met with Russians to get dirt on Hillary and Trump’s campaign Manager gave raw polling data to Russians.

I don't think so, voting for the lesser of two evils, the least worst candidate, the candidate you least want to lose isn't a vote for whom you finally vote for.

Blaming the Russians is big among Clinton supporters, but doesn't address her laziness. From 1 Sep 2016 through 8 Nov 2016 she basically ceded the campaign trail to Trump. 116 campaign visits, stops, appearances, rallies for Trump, 71 for Clinton. In the three deciding states it was Wisconsin, 5 for Trump, none, zero, nada for Clinton. Michigan was six for Trump, one for Clinton, Pennsylvania was closer, 8 for Trump, 5 for Clinton. Even in electoral vote rich Florida, she ceded that state also to Trump. 13 visits, stops, rallies for Trump, 8 for Clinton. This had much more effect than any Russian thing.

Then there was Hillary's inept campaign strategy, if calling trying to get more electoral votes than Obama a strategy. She much much time, energy and money trying to win Arizona, Georgia and Utah instead of looking after her own backyard, the so called blue wall states.

Hilly's whole campaign was a ho hum affair. Trump energized and enthused his supporters to where they were willing to go to the four corners of the earth for him. Quite a few Hillary supporters weren't even enthused enough to go to the polls. The Democrats had a six point advantage in party affiliation in 2016, but only 3 points advantage among those who turned out to vote.

Hillary ceded the media to Trump also. He was always calling into every morning talk show almost every day. He didn't care if they were for him or against him. Hillary basically hid from the media, going over 200 days without a press conference and only appearing on shows that were 100% for her like the view. Trump was like that old showman, there isn't any such thing as bad publicity. No publicity was bad. His name was always the headliner, the top story, sometimes good, sometimes bad, sometimes indifferent, but he hogged the limelight.

There's much more, but I don't want to write a book. These things above Hillary had direct control over. She didn't Russia, maybe Russia made a difference, maybe not. If it did, it was because she did or didn't do all of the above allowing Russia to either make a difference or not.

I think letting Trump both outwork and out campaign her made the significant difference. Her laziness, her lack of fire in the belly. her ho humness. Almost like she knew she had the election in the bag, guaranteed to win, that she didn't have to try.

Everyone here knows I didn't vote for HClinton in 2016. I got my Russia information from Bob Mueller.

Another reason Mrs. Clinton lost was her asking, "Why aren't I 50 points ahead in the polls?" That might not be exactly what she said but the hubris of such a comment offended a lot of people. Her arrogant belief that she would win is big factor in her defeat. Her unfounded optimism led her to ignore a crucial part of our Presidential elections, the Electoral College.

You did not mention Dir Comey's interjection into the campaign. As soon as I saw it I said he just killed her chances to win.

I think I understand her her reluctance to have too many pressers early. She still had to combat Benghazi and emails. If she had been on every show every day those would have been the first questions. That she did a poor job of answering those questions is her fault.

There were lots of reasons she was a poor candidate but certainly you can not be saying Mr Trump was a better candidate???

As opposed to Mr Trump's extreme narcissistic arrogance????? really????

I guess always vote for the buffoon and guess what you'll get.