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Will Trump Resign or be Impeached?
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Why would he resign? The Senate isn't going to convict him and he knows it.


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Originally Posted by Greger
Why would he resign? The Senate isn't going to convict him and he knows it.
...because Trump will then have an impeachment on his record. Hmm Trump wants a pristine record - just like BAMZ!!! has. smile

(Trump will be impeached, his record will not be pristine, and Trump will never, ever have the honesty, humility and humanity that BAMZ!!!! has. laugh )


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Originally Posted by Greger
Why would he resign? The Senate isn't going to convict him and he knows it.

Bill Kristol just stated that as far as his own personal private convos with Republican lawmakers, a significant number of them confide PRIVATELY that "it is NOT inconceivable that we would vote to remove President Trump from office if the facts in evidence indicate it necessary."

He just said it in a conversation with Chris Cuomo on MSNBC not five minutes ago.


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Originally Posted by pdx rick
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I'm a numbers guy, so here it is based on the numbers. The House will impeach Trump, the senate won't remove him. I don't think the Democrats would get 47 AYE votes for removal from their own senators. Democrat Jones, Alabama is up for reelection, Trump has a 60% approval rating in Alabama. If Jones voted AYE to remove Trump, he would kill whatever slim chances of reelection he had. Then there is Manchin, West Virginia where Trump has a 61% approval rating. Manchin isn't up for reelection in 2020, even so, I doubt he would go against the wishes of that many West Virginians.

That means the Democrats probably need at least 22 Republican senators to vote AYE for removal. Those up for reelection who would vote AYE, Collins Maine. One who isn't, Murkowski, Alaska who doesn't like Trump at all and has feuded with him in the past.

Ernst, Iowa and Gardner Colorado would probably guarantee a loss in the general if they voted NAY, but also a loss in the GOP primaries if they voted AYE. I think you could perhaps find 5 or so more willing to vote AYE, but that is it.

The problem is polarization. Almost all red states have two GOP senators, almost all Blue states have two Democratic senators. There isn't many states that have one of each. This is based on the numbers.

With 67 senators need to vote AYE, I can see somewhere between 50-55 actually doing so.

Bottom line unless something major happens to change events, the house impeaches, the senate fails to convict, Trump doesn't resign and remains president until 20 Jan 2021.


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Originally Posted by Greger
Why would he resign? The Senate isn't going to convict him and he knows it.
Besides, he loses his Presidential Power of Invulnerability as soon as he becomes "former".

The crowd in the Coliseum will be chanting, "Set the lawsuits free upon him!!"


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Besides, an impeached Trump will be severely wounded going into the 2020 presidential race - if he's not removed. smile

A win-win. Hmm


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Remember all the excitement that preceded the Mueller report? And how I told yall it wasn't gonna fly? Well this aint gonna either.

Trump's popularity with the voters is too high for Republicans to do the right thing. Political suicide plain and simple. They'll wait and let the voters decide.



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Originally Posted by pdx rick
Besides, an impeached Trump will be severely wounded going into the 2020 presidential race - if he's not removed. smile

A win-win. Hmm

Quite the contrary, if Trump is impeached but not convicted Republican voters will seek revenge, cult members will sober up just long enough to get out and vote. Ask Senator Hatrack if this will prevent him from voting for Trump or make him less likely to vote for Trump. I think you'll find he's more excited about voting for Trump than before impeachment reared its ugly head.


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Originally Posted by Greger
Trump's popularity with the voters is too high...
Which voters? Hmm

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538.com

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Real Clear Politics.com

Decent Americans can't stand Trump. Hmm


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