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Why would he resign? The Senate isn't going to convict him and he knows it. Besides, he loses his Presidential Power of Invulnerability as soon as he becomes "former". The crowd in the Coliseum will be chanting, "Set the lawsuits free upon him!!" Upon further reflection, I think Trump will do whatever will keep him at the center of attention for the longest time, and the more chaotic the better. That scenario pretty much rules out resigning.
You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
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Rick Wilson - Raw Story “The polling and fundraising collapse in key GOP Senate races for 2020 has McConnell pondering the ultimate triage: saving the majority by sacrificing the President.”
“The panic in the Republican Party is palpable, and delicious,” concluded Wilson. “Trump will grow more angry that the Senate isn’t immolating itself to support him. The House GOP and the Trump media apparatus will demand louder noises, more distractions, more Trump-hadi tactics in support of a President who has already poisoned their future. It’s going to be loud, and very, very ugly.”
You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
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Still confused. You say you voted against Sec Clinton but you are an ardent hyperpartisan supporter of Mr Trump. Sorry but those two concepts do not mesh.
You do not have to rationalize to anyone for your support for the puzzygrabbing bigot in chief. Just man up.
I voted for Sec Clinton because I thought she was the best choice to keep the incompetent, puzzygrabbing, bigot, who was and is unfit for office from becoming the next occupant of the WH.
There are a couple of Democrats I am watching which I would support if they have the "right" qualifications, in spite of the fact I have not supported any candidate since 1972.
ignorance is the enemy
without equality there is no liberty
America can survive bad policy, but not destruction of our Democratic institutions
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Trump will never quit. It just doesn't matter - he is not going peacefully or easily regardless of whether he has been impeached and convicted by the senate, the house actually gets the goods on him, anything! He will never leave willingly. He has actually talked about a 3rd term! He has his base and, as far as I am concerned, quite willing to bring the country to another anoter civil war. Even if they actually drag him out of the white house he is not going to stop.
Just the way it is......................
On the other hand, if the house actually gets more understandable real stuff on Trump the senate is going to have a tougher time supporting him (this is my hope) which will help in the battle over the senate. Perhaps if they could get a video of Trump raping a 12 year old boy?
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[quote=Senator Hatrack]Before anyone tries to say that these people are racists and white supremacists take a look at the rallies Trump is having. Um...we have - that is why we have labeled Trump rallies as "Klan rallies." Simply because Trump has a Klan rally in a blue district doesn't mean that the attendees are District folks. It is known that Trump rally are filled with people who are bused-in.  It is truly astounding how deluded that comment is! The idea that the people who organized the Trump rally could bus in 20,000 members of the KKK is ludicrous. I never wrote that all of the attendees were bused in, nor that all the attendees belonged to the KKK. "Klan rallies" is a euphemism for bigotry and racism by me.  Yes, you did. I put the sentence where you made that claim in italics and bold print. That you call Trump rallies "Klan rallies" is an example of your bigotry pdx rick. Here is the definition of the word bigot. "One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ." Your intolerance of Trump supporters makes you a bigot. There are probably not that many members of the KKK in the ENTIRE country! I have friends who went to the rally and the majority of the people who went to it drove themselves there in their own car or rode with friends. I can understand hating Trump but to claim that all of his supporters are members of the KKK is not a sign of rational thinking! If that type of thinking is widely accepted by the Democrats, if it is even given any credibility, than our country is in serious trouble! One not need to be a card-carrying KKK member to be a racist and bigot. Trump's June 2015 announcement in part: When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people. Further examples of Trump being a racist and bigot can be read here: Donald Trump’s long history of racism, from the 1970s to 2019 ...there is no excuse for avoiding clear, accurate descriptions of American political dynamics. When the data show that President Trump’s support stems from racist and sexist beliefs, and that his election emboldened Americans to engage in racist behavior, it is the responsibility of social scientists and other political observers to say so. - Brookings Institute, August 2019 Since conservative sources are dismissed solely because they are conservative your use of two liberal sources does not prove anything pdx rick.
The state can never straighten the crooked timber of humanity.
I'm a conservative because I question authority.
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Still confused. You say you voted against Sec Clinton but you are an ardent hyperpartisan supporter of Mr Trump. Sorry but those two concepts do not mesh. You do not have to rationalize to anyone for your support for the puzzygrabbing bigot in chief. Just man up.
I voted for Sec Clinton because I thought she was the best choice to keep the incompetent, puzzygrabbing, bigot, who was and is unfit for office from becoming the next occupant of the WH.
There are a couple of Democrats I am watching which I would support if they have the "right" qualifications, in spite of the fact I have not supported any candidate since 1972. No, I am not a hyper-partisan supporter of Trump. You say that only because I defend Trump. If I didn't defend, not support, but defend Trump NO ONE on the Rant would do so. Practically everyone here on the Rant posts comments that attack Trump and NONE of them are questioned. Anything critical of Trump is believed 100% but anything that is not critical of Trump is not believed. That is hyper-partisanship! I put in italics and bold print your hyper-partisan comment about Trump. So your claim that you are not hyper-partisan is BS!
The state can never straighten the crooked timber of humanity.
I'm a conservative because I question authority.
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The numbers could change very quickly: An appeals court just expressed doubt that the Justice Department memos shielding Trump have any basis in the constitution or the law. That opens him up to indictment. His Justice Department may not do it, but the State of New York AG is perfectly willing. We are also seeing his efforts to prohibit cooperation with the House subpoenas crumbling, as well as his attempts to conceal documents and his financial and tax records.
Rick's survey left out two options that may be even more likely:
3) Amendment 25, when he obviously flips out and needs psychiatric hospitalization
4) He goes on an official visit to Moscow and then doesn't come back
Either of these might be better for Trump.
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Mystery quote of the day...
"I worked with John Kelly, and he was totally unequipped to handle the genius of our great President."
You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
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Kelly's problem was he just didn't believe in wishing for something really really hard, so then it comes true.
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No, I am not a hyper-partisan supporter of Trump. You say that only because I defend Trump. If I didn't defend, not support, but defend Trump NO ONE on the Rant would do so. Practically everyone here on the Rant posts comments that attack Trump and NONE of them are questioned. Anything critical of Trump is believed 100% but anything that is not critical of Trump is not believed. That is hyper-partisanship! I put in italics and bold print your hyper-partisan comment about Trump. So your claim that you are not hyper-partisan is BS! How is defending someone who does the indefensible not being partisan? No one defends him because what he does IS indefensible. So perhaps you can list some actions which are defensible? Can you list anything which is critical of Mr Trump which is NOT true nor valid? I can not live with myself if I were to support the puzzygrabbing bigot, but apparently you have no problem with it. No where in the words "puzzygrabbing bigot" is the adjective liberal or conservative. My distaste is not based on politics but on his personal character, therefore it is not partisan in nature. So my question is, why haven't you figured that out???
ignorance is the enemy
without equality there is no liberty
America can survive bad policy, but not destruction of our Democratic institutions
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