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At the rally in Minneapolis were there 20,000 people in the Target Center for the Trump rally and about 10,000 people who couldn't get in. There is a reason why the Trump campaign is not paying for the rallies. That reason is that in Minneapolis the city tried to charge the Trump organization $500,000 for a rally while it charged the Obama organization $20,000 for a rally in the same location. Of course the Trump organization refused to pay that much. Free Beacon This link will be ignored or not believed because it is from a conservative source. Golly, my bad! Where did you get that bogus info, then? And why did you say it in a paragraph that linked to Free Beacon?
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The only point I see is the Senator has cherry picked citations which support his preconceived narrative, by taking quotes out of the broader context in which they would make sense.
This is a typical conservative tactic and then to finish it they accuse the other party of cherry picking out of context. If you listen to Hannity, Limbaugh, Levin, Steyn, etc that is typical. There was bi-partisan support for the invasion of Iraq. Not everyone was a strong supporter of the invasion but it did have bi-partisan support. Since rporter314 is accusing me of cherry picking quotes, which he says a typical conservative tactic, he must be a conservative.
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Grudging bi-partisan support based on WMD lies by BushCo.
Why, oh why, did BushCo lie?
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At the rally in Minneapolis were there 20,000 people in the Target Center for the Trump rally and about 10,000 people who couldn't get in. There is a reason why the Trump campaign is not paying for the rallies. That reason is that in Minneapolis the city tried to charge the Trump organization $500,000 for a rally while it charged the Obama organization $20,000 for a rally in the same location. Of course the Trump organization refused to pay that much. Free Beacon This link will be ignored or not believed because it is from a conservative source. Golly, my bad! Where did you get that bogus info, then? And why did you say it in a paragraph that linked to Free Beacon? The information I got about the number of people in attendance at the Trump rally was from friends of mine who went to it. What they said was close to the various estimates that 20,000 people were at the rally. If you had read all of my comment you would not have asked that question.
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Grudging bi-partisan support based on WMD lies by BushCo.
Why, oh why, did BushCo lie? When did Pres. Clinton join BushCo.? President Clinton's 1988 State of the Union speech
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I assume you meant 1998.
Clinton went on to say that the key was inspections by UNSCOM weapons inspectors, which Saddam was resisting at that time. In 2003 (five years later), the inspectors had pretty much unfettered access and were finding no WMD. BushCo made up the 2003 WMD threat. Don't you remember?
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I assume you meant 1998.
Clinton went on to say that the key was inspections by UNSCOM weapons inspectors, which Saddam was resisting at that time. In 2003 (five years later), the inspectors had pretty much unfettered access and were finding no WMD. BushCo made up the 2003 WMD threat. Don't you remember? Yes, I did mean 1998. "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 If BushCo made up the threat he had bi-partisan support for it.
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Horseshit... it was a con job.
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Little vials of powder...
Aluminum tubes...
Yellow cake...
Secret stockpiles ...
Mushroom clouds...
Gotta invade before summer hits...
Remember all those lame sales pitches?
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Why would you intentionally miss the point once again. Of course there is a usage which is directed against terrorists, however, that is not the context here. I specifically framed the context in regard to Mr Trump. Here is an example of the polarization and divisiveness of the slogan. You're either with us or you're against us. That gang, they call themselves Never hashtag, whatever, I just call 'em Republicans Against Trump, or RAT for short... If you don't see that as explicitly divisive, well ...
ignorance is the enemy
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