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Spokesperson ... but any Trump supporter believes he is a genius .... just ask them
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Report from WSJ states Amb Sondland's attorney says Amb Sondland admitted there WAS a quid pro quo between Mr Trump and Ukraine. This further corroboration of the whistleblowers complaint. How much more does it take for you to admit there was a QPQ???
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No, I am not a hyper-partisan supporter of Trump. You say that only because I defend Trump. If I didn't defend, not support, but defend Trump NO ONE on the Rant would do so. Practically everyone here on the Rant posts comments that attack Trump and NONE of them are questioned. Anything critical of Trump is believed 100% but anything that is not critical of Trump is not believed. That is hyper-partisanship! I put in italics and bold print your hyper-partisan comment about Trump. So your claim that you are not hyper-partisan is BS! How is defending someone who does the indefensible not being partisan? No one defends him because what he does IS indefensible. So perhaps you can list some actions which are defensible? To say that what Trump is indefensible is not only partisan but it goes against the American system of justice. The basic tenet of that system is that everyone, no matter what they are alleged to have done, deserves to be defended. When that basic tenet of system of justice is gone then freedom is also gone. Because should that ever happen all it will take is someone in our government accusing a person of a crime and since what they are alleged to have done is "indefensible" they are convicted without any due process. Can you list anything which is critical of Mr Trump which is NOT true nor valid? All of it. That you consider it true and valid does not make it so. I can not live with myself if I were to support the puzzygrabbing bigot, but apparently you have no problem with it. No where in the words "puzzygrabbing bigot" is the adjective liberal or conservative. My distaste is not based on politics but on his personal character, therefore it is not partisan in nature. So my question is, why haven't you figured that out??? That you continue to say that Pres. Trump is a "pussy-grabbing bigot" is is something that is a liberal point of view. First of all that you say he is grabbing pussy is to imply that what he said years ago he is still doing. Grabbing is a verb that shows action. If there were any women whose pussy he had grabbed recently those women would be filing sexual harassment charges against him. None have. Since none have he has not been grabbing any pussy. (Except maybe his wife's and if he is still doing that at his age, more power to him!) But then should any women come forward and make that claim you would automatically believe them. Which is an example of your being partisan. Where is your outrage about the allegations of sexual harassment against Virginia's Lt. Governor Justin Fairfax? NY Post Oh, yeah Lt. Governor Fairfax is a Democrat so it doesn't matter what he is alleged to have done. You just keeping yelling "pussy-grabber" in your hyper-partisan belief that Trump is still doing that. Then that you call him a bigot is also your opinion, not a fact. If he were a bigot he would not have the support from blacks, Latinos, and Asians. As I have posted here before a bigot would not get the strong support of Jennifer Carnahan. Asians for Trump African American suport for Trump Latinos for Trump. So you can stick your BoguS claim that Trump is a bigot where the sun doesn't shine.
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Report from WSJ states Amb Sondland's attorney says Amb Sondland admitted there WAS a quid pro quo between Mr Trump and Ukraine. This further corroboration of the whistleblowers complaint. How much more does it take for you to admit there was a QPQ??? Especially given that Trump, Giuliani, and Mulvaney ALL said on television that Trump did a quid pro quo. Remember? 1. It didn't happen, the call was perfect. 2. Ok, it happened, but it was a joke. 3. Ok, not a joke, but no pressure. 4. Ok, pressure, but no quid pro quo. 5. OK, quid pro quo, but the good kind. 
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Trump SAT 10/26/19 Where's the Whistleblower George Conway SAT 10/26/19 The answer, @realDonaldTrump, is, it doesn’t matter. We know you’re not too bright, so we’ll make this simple for you. Let’s suppose you’re walking down Fifth Avenue, and you see a bunch of people running out of a bank. They’re yelling:
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“The bank’s being robbed!” You take your phone, and you tweet at the NYPD that there’s a bank robbery in progress. (That’s hearsay, by the way.) The cops come, they interview the witnesses, they get video of the crime, and they even get confessions from the robbers.
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They don’t talk to you. And they don’t need to. They have all the evidence they need.
For the same reason, Congress doesn’t need to talk to the whistleblower. They have many other witnesses. They have the memo of your call. And you, Rudy, and Mulvaney have all confessed. Why do Conservative not "get" that Trump, Giuliani, and Mulvaney confessed to the crime of quid pro quo on television. There's a reason why people are saying that these "three amigos" are not very bright. 
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National Public Radio And what the inspector general alerted the Justice Department to is the possibility that there was a campaign finance violation here. And the Justice Department, we now know, looked into that. The Criminal Division of the Justice Department looked at that referral, came to the conclusion that there was indeed no campaign finance violation on the part of the president, not because of consideration of whether you can indict a sitting president or not, which was, of course, one of the questions in the Mueller investigation...
INSKEEP: Yeah.
LUCAS: But rather they said that there was no way to determine whether this thing that the president was allegedly asking for, an investigation of a political rival, there was no way to determine the value of that thing. Therefore, there is no way to proceed with an investigation, essentially. From one of the most liberal sources in America, NPR, is an interview about the Ukrainian phone call with NPR's reporter for the Justice Department who said there is no quid pro quo.
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From one of the most liberal sources in America, NPR, is an interview about the Ukrainian phone call with NPR's reporter for the Justice Department who said there is no quid pro quo. It’s not news that DoJ said there was no quid pro quo. That’s one of the issues under investigation. What is your point, Senator?
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Senator Hatrack said "Where is your outrage about the allegations of sexual harassment against Virginia's Lt. Governor Justin Fairfax? "
Unless rporter314 is in Virginia, he like I and others here, have no say in the matter of Lt. Governor Fairfax. Now as for President Donald (...) Trump; he holds a national office, therefor is of concern to every American resident or citizen.
I, as have one or two others here, have known of President Donald (...) Trump's sexual peccadilloes since before he announced and it was of no concern to me or the others. However, and that is a big HOWEVER, once he announced and the grab'em by the P...y incident, it became of national concern and everybody here had a right to comment on it. That is the difference, one is local to a state the other is national. Another difference is one is an allegation, the other an admission.
Now, who is trying to muddy the waters by bringing in non-relevant issues?
But, I'm biased about President Donald (Coward, Misogynist, Serial Sexual Predator, Narcissistic Robber Baron wanna be bully, ...) Trump, so what I say does not matter because it is biased or so some might say.
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Something to consider: Republicans want open hearings on the impeachment hearings - yet Barr's "Russia Origins" probe has gone from inquiry to "criminal" - where were those open hearings? Where are the transcripts?
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