Originally Posted by Greger
Quote
Regardless of what one thinks of Trump, what he deserves or doesn't, the vindictiveness shown by Democrats against Trump since the day after the election most likely has caused a high number of independents to chalk all of this up as partisan politics and they have put the whole thing on ignore.

That is what the numbers are showing.


Trump Derangement Syndrome. We saw the same thing when Obama was President. In a sense this is revenge politics.

They impeached Clinton
We hated Bush
They lynched the Obama family
We're impeaching Trump

I do think you have something there. The impeachment of Bill Clinton was totally uncalled for. A censor would have done nicely. Quite a lot of Democrats were willing to go along with a censor. The GOP overplayed their hand, a majority of Americans were against impeaching Bill. In fact his approval rating rose from 59% to 65% during the whole impeachment process.

I don't think the Democrats hated G.W. They gave an average of a 36% approval rating for G.W.'s first term. Only a 10% average approval during his second term. Most Americans weren't all that keen on G.W. in his second term either. The Recession and being tired of the wars, time for a change if you weren't a Republican. I don't think most democrats hated G.W. they were just tired of his policies and the whole situation.

I do agree that after 2010, the whole Republican agenda was to stop anything and everything Obama. They weren't interested in accomplishing anything at all. whether or not one agreed with Obama's policies, he was a gentleman, a likable individual, a president who acted presidential. that is unless you were a hard core GOP'er.

Revenge by the Democrats on Trump. Certainly there is some of that. Maybe even a lot. I'd say the vast majority of democrats thought they had the election won. Heck, I thought so too. The presidency belong to them even before the first vote was cast. What a shock that must have been to wake up Wednesday morning after the election to find out Trump won. I was totally surprised, not shocked, unexpected for sure.

It's interesting the way the numbers stack up on this impeachment among independents, the less to non-partisans. Roughly you have a third who think this is nothing more than a partisan political vendetta, revenge to use your word against Trump for losing an election. Another third who think the hearings are all about truth, justice, bringing an end to a president who has committed crimes and abused power. Then a third who just don't care. Probably just sick and tired of hearing about Trump, Mueller, impeachment et.al.


It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.