Originally Posted by Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted by perotista
Originally Posted by Jeffery J. Haas
If the Senate vote to convict and remove could be held in secret, we wouldn't even be having this discussion, we'd be measuring the drapes in the Oval Office.
I think you're wrong. I think we have more than enough secrecy in government than to let our legislatures conduct their or shall I say the peoples business in secret also. I'm sure they would love that, no one could ever be held accountable.

Of course. I know, that is the problem. They are paralyzed with fear of the Trump base, which isn't large enough to reelect the guy but certainly large enough to throw the individual Congress critters out of office.
And with a job as cushy as that one, nobody wants to leave. The gravy train and the power is more important to them than the fate of the country's future.
I was mocking their lack of accountability and their lack of balls, because deep down I am sure that at least twenty Republican secretly agree that Trump's excesses are damaging our democracy and respect for the law itself.
Perhaps, doubtful, but perhaps. There was a time when most states had one R and one D representing them in the senate. That's no longer the case. Most deep red states have two R's and deep blue states 2 D's with very little play among the rest. the deep red states are convinced Trump has done nothing wrong, the deep blue states that Trump has done everything wrong. That is the nature of our present political situation.

How many are split? Alabama, Arizona, Colorado, Maine, Montana, Ohio, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Wisconsin. that's 9, I can remember when 30 states were split between the parties, the main exception was the solid democratic south.

I really don't think a secret vote would change much.

It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.