Originally Posted by Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted by perotista
Originally Posted by Jeffery J. Haas
If the Senate vote to convict and remove could be held in secret, we wouldn't even be having this discussion, we'd be measuring the drapes in the Oval Office.
I think you're wrong. I think we have more than enough secrecy in government than to let our legislatures conduct their or shall I say the peoples business in secret also. I'm sure they would love that, no one could ever be held accountable.

Of course. I know, that is the problem. They are paralyzed with fear of the Trump base, which isn't large enough to reelect the guy but certainly large enough to throw the individual Congress critters out of office.
And with a job as cushy as that one, nobody wants to leave. The gravy train and the power is more important to them than the fate of the country's future.
I was mocking their lack of accountability and their lack of balls, because deep down I am sure that at least twenty Republican secretly agree that Trump's excesses are damaging our democracy and respect for the law itself.
And here's the public perception of the impeachment hearings, process so far.

Public response to impeachment hearings since their beginning. Comparing Trump’s approval ratings, percentage of those who want Trump impeached and removed along with those who don’t. As you can see Trump’s approval rating hasn’t really moved an inch. Then there is the party break down. Democrats totally for impeachment and removal, Republicans totally against. Independents split right down the middle. This impeachment isn’t an America battle. It’s a battle between parties. One party who has wanted Trump gone since the day after the election, the other fighting for him to stay. With the percentages listed below, one can only come to the conclusion this is purely, 100% a very partisan battle. Who’s right and who’s wrong, let history judge.
Impeachment hearings began on 13 Nov 2019 vs. 30 Nov 2019
Trump’s approval 13 Nov 43.9%, 26 Nov 43.5%

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

13 Nov Democrats for impeachment and removal 82%, 30 Nov Democrats for impeachment and removal 87%.
13 Nov Republicans for impeachment and removal 12%, 30 Nov Republicans for impeachment and removal 9%.
13 Nov Independents for impeachment and removal 38%, 30 Nov Independents for impeachment and removal 44%.
13 Nov Democrats against impeachment and removal 6%, 30 Nov Democrats against impeachment and removal 8%.
13 Nov Republicans against impeachment and removal 80%, 30 Nov Republicans against impeachment and removal 88%.
13 Nov Independents against impeachment and removal 39%, 30 Nov Independents against impeachment and removal 45%.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e...and_removal_of_president_trump-6957.html

It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.