Originally Posted by Greger
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one can only come to the conclusion this is purely, 100% a very partisan battle.

And the argument can be made that practically every facet of our government has been reduced to purely 100% very partisan battles.
Practically every facet of our lives.

I'm down with the revolution, bring out the torches and pitchforks!

As long as my check shows up each month we're all good.

No one despises Donald Trump and the Republican Party more than I do. But still, I don't consider myself a "partisan". I've got no particular love for Democrats and I don't find this Ukraine thing to be a big deal. It's a Benghazi Her Emails thing, Lock Her Up!

But the Democratic Base was screaming for it.

So here we go, even though no laws were demonstrably broken as far as the jury is concerned they press on with their case.

This is Donald Trump, the third generation leader of a white-collar criminal family. He is probably guilty of innumerable crimes that would disqualify him from the presidency. But just as Donald Trump has proven himself to be ruthless in digging up dirt on his opponents he also covers up his own dirt completely. Donald Trump is a financial criminal and no one will ever be able to prove it.

He's where he is because he's good at what he does.

Perhaps partisan is the wrong word. I'm not sure. We do have one party who declared war on Trump, basically from the day after the election. The other party has retaliated to keep him. So this is a war between major parties. The results are preordained. Trump stays.

But I was curious enough to take a look back at Nixon and the numbers when impeachment hearings began in the House back in 1974. I'm taking formal impeachment hearings, not the Watergate committee.

Nixon - Republicans 19% for, 70% against. Trump 9% for, 88% against.
Nixon - Democrats 58% for, 27% against, Trump 87% for, 8% against.
Nixon - Independents 43% for, 42% against, Trump 44% for, 45% against

Independents are almost identical for both Nixon and Trump. It's the major parties where the differences lie. A 30 point difference among Democrats. Probably due to the era of our politics. We weren't as polarized or as partisan back in 1974 as we are today. Certainly not as ideological crazed. Partisanship, my party right or wrong has definitely grown immensely since 1974. There also wasn't the hate of each party for the other either.


It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.