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It's the Despair Quotient! Carpal Tunnel
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Oh, by the way  Russia renewed SIX Trump trademarks--while interfering in the 2016 election — 4 were approved on Election Day. BUT NO COLLUSION!!! NO COLLUSION!!! NO BUSINESS DEALS IN RUSSIA!!!
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I believe in something greater than myself. A better world. A world without sin. Idealism .... is it such a bad thing it is not to be pursued?
ignorance is the enemy
without equality there is no liberty
America can survive bad policy, but not destruction of our Democratic institutions
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Those trademarks may be worthless in the near future
ignorance is the enemy
without equality there is no liberty
America can survive bad policy, but not destruction of our Democratic institutions
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Sen Lindsey Graham is now promoting the idea of censure because it would have bi-partisan support and impeachment would be too traumatic to the country. Gee Senator .... when a public official, one who has been duly elected, violates the public trust, they has committed a Constitutional sin punishable by impeachment and hopefully removal. Of course it is traumatic, but necessary, as it is mandated by the Constitution.
For all the obfuscation Sen Graham has performed in service to his master, Mr Trump, it is clear he knows and understands Mr Trump broke his oath of office and something needs to be done to satisfy the Constitutional mandates dealt to Congress.
I haven't explored the ramifications of censure but superficially the first thing to come to me was the political implications. Could a presidential censure be more damaging politically to Mr Trump than an impeachment trial in which he is acquitted? I would hate to debase myself to support censure when the Constitution does not consider the matter political in nature.
I dunno ... what do you think????
ignorance is the enemy
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America can survive bad policy, but not destruction of our Democratic institutions
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What can we do to help you stop screaming?
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I have investigation censure to some degree and from what I've read it equates to basically a slap on the wrist. "You did a bad thing, shame-shame". That's about it. That's why Lindsey Graham is suggesting censure, not impeachment. A motion of censure expresses formalized disapproval but carries no practical consequences or sanctions. Should one pass against Trump, it would indicate that his fear-based grip on the Republican party’s sitting members had been broken.
As far as Trump’s personal reaction or impact, the only variable would be who or what he would blame because he has a lifelong record of always being blameless and without responsibility.
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“The Trump-Ukraine Impeachment inquiry Report” provides a detailed, if stunning, account of a shadow diplomacy run by Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani, resulting in layers of allegations, which can be distilled into specific acts like bribery, extortion or obstruction, and the more amorphous allegation that Trump abused his power by putting his interests above the nation." AP press release
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It's the Despair Quotient! Carpal Tunnel
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Hamish  Humble
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Have had my copies since 6 pm yesterday. Now, just need some falling snow and a hot cup of decaf (yuk).
Vote 2022!
Life is like a PB&J sandwich. The older you get, the moldery and crustier you get.
Now, get off my grass!
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So is Turley trying to say that what Trump has done is not as bad as lying about a blow job in the Oval Office?
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