Originally Posted by chunkstyle
I think your post is a good example of the current unhinged paranoi of the liberal mindset.

From Dima Vorobiev, published in 2018

"Russia is not the enemy of the Western Europe. The disruptive policy of President Putin is aimed at (1) weakening the political and military dominance of the US in Europe and/or (2) full or partial acceptance by the West of the following list of Russia’s political objectives:"


  • Putin's list
  • Recognition of Crimea as Russian territory

    Total freeze on expansion of NATO. No membership for Sweden, Finland, Ukraine or Georgia.

    No NATO bases in the Baltics, Poland, Czech republic and Slovakia, Romania and Bulgaria. Removal of the American anti-ballistic bases in Central Europe.

    Finlandization of Georgia, Ukraine and guarantees of such arrangement for Belarus, in case it gets a pro-Western government in the future.

    Guarantees of unhindered land connection through Lithuania between the Russian heartland and the exclave of Kaliningrad. The unhindered transit through the Suwalki gap would be very useful for Russia as a gauge of the level of determination on the part of NATO in the case of a swift escalation in tensions.

    Recognition of Russia’s right to permanent military presence in the Mediterranean (through bases in Syria and possibly in Libya or other places)

    Repeal of all sanctions against Russian oligarchs, their companies and sectoral interests.



---What do WE get in exchange for all of the above ^^^ ???

"If the West won’t agree to such a new global security arrangement, the current confrontation will continue, with variations only in the level of tensions. Because of the technological gap, the Russian military-industrial complex will increasingly depend on China for high-tech components for our weapons systems. Russian economy will also be more and more streamlined to accommodate the needs of Chinese manufacturing."

This stalemate can continue for many years, unless one of the following happens:

Unexpected massive deterioration of economy in Russia.
***Low-probability, high-impact catastrophe in the US or Europe that makes the West seek help from Russia
Power shift in Russia with full revision of national policy. (Highly unlikely with President Putin still in power).

---***This second to last talking point sounds vaguely similar to the
PNAC wish list for American military expansion in the pre-9/11 days.

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"Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor."

Yeah...The Project for the New American Century...everyone knows they're all a bunch of disgusting hypocritical liberals. ROTFMOL tinfoilhat



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