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Why is Mitch so upset about Nancy's refusal to instantly transmit Articles of Impeachment to the Senate?
She learned the tactic by watching Mitch stonewall on Merrick Garland's nomination to SCOTUS and by watching him let almost 400 House bills pile up on his desk.
If Mitch can stall the constitutional duty of weighing on a president's SCOTUS nominee, claiming that it was one year from the election and the voters might change the composition of the chamber, then Pelosi is allowed to do the same thing.
Tough titty, Mitch.

You missed my point entirely...

My fond hope is that Trump gets to wait forever for the impeachment charge. This allows Trump to be impeached yet doesn't let the senate even weigh in. So, Trump can't make any claims of being absolved and it just hangs there forever. If, however, do nothing Mitch actually allows the top tier witnesses they actually may be able to prove an ongoing criminal conspiracy. I suspect we will know that if they give the witnesses immunity.

I believe, incidentally, that Trump actually believes he has done nothing wrong! He believes this because he has been doing this kind of stuff for so long he actaully thinks he is right. My fond hope is that he actually gets a bit of education on that.

Anyway, either way, I am a happy camper!

Interesting thought. How would the House impeachment vote be considered if the articles are never transmitted to the senate? With legislation, the House can pass the bill, but if it is never sent to the senate, the bill or legislation is dead. Pretty much like it never happened. More in line with a resolution. If the impeachment articles aren't transmitted to the senate, the current session ends, wouldn't it be more in line with a resolution, an opinion of the full house on Trump rather than an impeachment which technically never took place. The technically is the process wasn't completed by the house. They had one last step in the procedure which as of yet, they haven't completed.

I don't know. It's like I want a bonfire. I get the wood, stack it up, pour gas onto the wood. But until I light the match and throw it on the wood to ignite it. I don't have a bonfire, although I did everything needed except the last required step.

It's all semantics anyway. If the house doesn't send the articles of impeachment over to the senate, is this an official impeachment or an unofficial impeachment? I know, I have way too much time on my hands to think of things like this.

Ah...but not to worry. Eventually the house will send it to the senate.
They've got a year to decide just when would be the best time. And I'm pretty sure Speaker Pelosi knows the legal ins and outs of this.

I'm sure you're right. Now if one was a political strategy advisor to the Democrats, when would be the best time?

Right after congress returns after the Christmas recess maybe? That's 7 Jan I think. The primaries start 3 Feb and run through 16 Jun. With a bunch of senators running for the nomination, do we want them off the campaign trail for the trial? The democratic convention is set for 13-16 July.

So January is open if the trial can be over in 3 weeks, same for the time period after the primaries and before the convention. Or do we wait until the official general election campaign begins on 1 Sep. Then there's the lame duck session after the election.

I'm under the impression the impeachment vote, like legislation doesn't carry over from one session to the next.

Now Speaker Pelosi can transmit or send over the articles of impeachment whenever she wants, if she wants. Along those lines, McConnell will determine when the senate holds the trial. He can put it off or immediately schedule it. There's no time frame for either in the Constitution. McConnell can play tit for tat.

One last thing, Senator Robert Byrd motioned prior to Bill Clinton's trial that the charges or articles be dismissed. It failed mainly because the Republicans controlled the senate. To dismiss the charges all it takes is a simple majority. Byrd set the precedence for this.

Like Pelosi and the democrats setting the rules in the House for impeachment, McConnell and the Republicans will set the rules for the trial in the senate. Interesting times.

when a grand jury indicts someone and the signed papers do not get to prosecutors office, was that person indicted or not?

reaching the DA's office has nothing to do with the indictment.

Mr Trump was impeached.

setting the rules? LOL

Remember when Mr Trump used to claim the 2016 was a rigged election? Well the Senate trial is a rigged trial.

Ironic, isn't it? The election actually WAS rigged, but for Trump to win. Any time Trump accuses somebody of something, it's probably because he is doing that thing.

Exactly, in psychology this is called projection.

Understanding Donald Trump 101:

If you take everything he says, apply the opposite, this will always be the real truth.

Anything that Trump accuses someone else of doing, he's actually doing this accusation himself.

You're welcome