Originally Posted by NW Ponderer
Originally Posted by perotista
From my view point, it seems today, we have two cults. The Cult of Trump and the Cult of Anti Trump.
I completely and thoroughly disagree. Indeed, I couldn't disagree more. You're buying into the tripe, my friend. The Republicans want to create the perception that this is a purely partisan issue because that is the way they approach it. The Democrats have not behaved the same way- which should be obvious from the fact it took 3 years to bring articles of impeachment! While it is true that the vast majority of democrats want Trump gone and think he is a notorious liar, crook, and traitor, that is a perception born of years of experience and evidence. One cannot simply ignore the accrual of actual misconduct because one might be accused of "political bias." Reality has to play a role. That's akin to arguing, and I'm serious here, that a federal judge can't hear a case involving Trump because he's a "Mexican" judge.

It's possible. But I don't belong to either party and outside of thoroughly disliking Trump as a person, the individual, I'm in neither the pro or anti Trump camps. I personally don't care if he goes or stays. Now this impeachment stuff could effect the upcoming election, so I'm paying attention to it.

I also think most independents are basically ho hum about impeachment and removal, just thinking that this shows the out right hostility both political parties have for each other and for Trump. When you have 46% of independents saying they have no interest in watching the trial along with 30% saying not sure. I think that proves the ho humness most independents are giving this thing.

I could be wrong, perhaps most independents are just tired of all of it all. Of course Democrats think Trump needs to go because of all his criminal and anti constitutional actions while Republicans will tell you Trump didn't do anything wrong and he is completely innocent. This is all a political vendetta against Trump, revenge for Trump winning an election.

So let the two major parties battle it out. Perhaps this whole thing will taint both parties so bad that we might get a viable third party out of it. I certainly hope so. I'm tired of the monopoly the two major parties have on our electoral system.

So far, I would say this whole thing has been a wash.


It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.