Originally Posted by rporter314
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I personally don't care if he goes or stays.
I am not sure how to interpret that statement.

Are you saying it doesn't matter who occupies the WH ... all is good?

Yes as a human person he is despicable and disgusting .... but for you that is OK for an occupant of the WH?

His domestic policies are geared to enhance his personal view of himself i.e. he is the greatest [fill in the blank] ... and that is OK with you?

So what would inspire you in an occupant of the WH?
I was born right after WWII and was quite satisfied with Truman through Obama. Actually I was too young to remember anything about Truman except what I read in the history books. Trump, like any other president in my lifetime he has done some things I supported and some I opposed. The R or the D has meant little to me. Not like most folks on this site where the R and or the D means everything.

What it means is I really dislike Trump's persona. His very unpresidential behavior, his schoolyard bullying along with his name calling. Now I don't think disliking the man means I'm in favor of impeachment and removal. I think that should be decided at the ballot box and not by the opposing party for purely political reasons.

If he goes, fine. Perhaps we have someone who actually promotes the dignity the office of the president deserves. If he stays, there's always November 2020.

Fact is I'm not comfortable with Trump as president. I was very comfortable with every other president in my lifetime. I wouldn't have been comfortable with Hillary Clinton either. There's a couple of Democratic candidates I wouldn't be comfortable with either with come Nov 2020.

Not being a hard core pro or anti Trumper, I know is hard for probably 99% of those on this site to understand. Not being a party animal is hard for those folks here to understand. My loyalty is to the country, not to either major party. My eyes, heart, feelings aren't tainted by either deep red or deep blue colored glasses. I support individuals, I support certain issues and policies and oppose others. But my support isn't determined by the R and or the D. My support is determine by what I think is best for the country.

This polarization and mega high partisanship era of politics we have entered into certainly is very bad and harmful to this country. The problem is each party thinks the other is the cause and they're completely innocent when it's been both parties leading this nation into the divisiveness and polarization for the last 20-30 years.

There you have it.


It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.