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Originally Posted by logtroll
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What happens when the dams fill up with sediment instead of water?
Where is that?


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Originally Posted by logtroll
A big cat, or a big box?
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Originally Posted by NW Ponderer
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What happens when the dams fill up with sediment instead of water?
Where is that?

Denadai Dam, in Eritrea.


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Originally Posted by jgw
Then there are those evil dams. Everybody wants them gone. We ripped one out up here. It was only going to cost a little bit. It ended up costing something like 5 billion dollars and put our town's water supply in danger. Most of the existing dams also store water for the use of agriculture. Without them things will be a LOT worse and food prices are going to go through the roof.

Just saying .....
Here’s the story of one of them.
Elwha Dam removal



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In case anyone thinks that’s a huge reservoir of water behind a dam…



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One of the more fascinating things I learned back in my days as an environmental activist in North Idaho is that the salmon runs were a tremendous system of nutrient recycling for everything in the watershed (read the Elwha article posted earlier). The salmon spend the majority of their lifecycle mining the oceans and storing the valuable organic “ore” in their bodies, which at the end of their lives they would transport far back up into the landscape - in the case of some Salmon River populations it was 900 miles inland to the place of their birth. There they would die, and as the local ecosystem ate them their accumulated wealth was distributed across the watershed to enrich everything from animals to trees - and don’t forget the fungi and insects!

Humans are forever blind to the wondrous and complex machine we simply call Nature, crudely interrupting it to scalp off some short term enhanced “benefits” at the expense of monkeywrenching the whole for the future. In short order we get so accustomed to our unnatural luxuries that we rename them “necessities”, thereby justifying the continuation of our accelerating zombie march into system-wide collapse.

But what the hell… smoke ‘em if ya got ‘em!


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I was watching a couple of documentaries on the Cascadia fault or subduction zone. Seems enough time has passed it may be getting ready to move again. That would leave Oregon and Washington state in peril. At least those who live along the coast.

Is there much thought of that among those who live there? I live in the foothills of the Appalachian Mountains, around 2,000 or so feet above sea level. No worries here of earthquakes or Tsunamis.


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One of these days that whole left coast is gonna slide into the ocean. Then the Yellowstone Caldera will blow its top and there won't be much of anything left west of the Mississippi.

So much for the manifest destiny.


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Originally Posted by Greger
One of these days that whole left coast is gonna slide into the ocean. Then the Yellowstone Caldera will blow its top and there won't be much of anything left west of the Mississippi.

So much for the manifest destiny.


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Yep, that was our dam the 5 billion dollar remove. They also put the national park in charge of what happens later and they had real problems but spent a LOT trying to fix them. I had a brother in law who is an environmental engineer. He arranged for a guided tour that took all day. He said that they had put stuff in wrong, overbought a lot of unnecessary equipment, etc. Its wasn't really their fault so much as the people who decided that the park service were the ones to fix the problem.

It was, basically, a very expensive mess. The Indians were happy but then they gained back a LOT of land that they had been screwed out of when the dam was built. Its kinda interesting that there was a group that went to the Indians and suggested they sue to get their land back that was stolen and they choose to just let it go rather than roiling up whitey's ire (they just didn't trust them).

Oh, that was a good video! (there are several)

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