Originally Posted by Greger
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Democrats view adding to the debt under Bill Clinton and Obama as good, adding to the debt under G.W. Bush and Trump bad. Debt ceiling votes under Clinton and Obama, Democrats all in favor of raising it. Debt ceiling votes under G.W., Democrats totally against.
It kinda depends on what you're raising the debt for. GW Bush raised it to wage two illegal wars(which continue to rage) Obama got stuck with the bill for that and Bush's crashed economy.
Trump has raised it to make the very wealthy much wealthier. I'm against that.

I would be in favor of raising it to implement socialized healthcare.

Much is made of the "tax and spend" Democrats, but little is ever said of the borrow and spend Republicans...
That probably depends on who you listen to. The crowd I run with condemn both. We give Bill Clinton the most credit along with the GOP congress. A president can't accomplished shrinking the deficits on their own without first getting congress to go along with him or raise the deficits and debt without congress first passing the legislation to do it.

We come down hard on Obama and now Trump. The one thing we don't do is listen to the rhetoric or if we do, we don't give it much credence as we know it is all hot air. we look at actions taken and the hard numbers. How much the debt rose from one year to the next. Rhetoric is cheap, it's actions that count.

It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.