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Nothing wrong with "moderates". I consider myself a moderate socialist.
Social democracy is fine...but democratic socialism might be a step too far...
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I don't think there can be any question that the DNC and Clinton operatives are working hard to de-rail the Sanders candidacy.
What's interesting though is that they are working together. Clinton, who lost in 2008 and again in 2016 appears unable to bow out gracefully. If she can't BE the president then she wants control of who gets to RUN for president.
It's an ideology thing. I think Hillary Clinton should be the president right now. I think she would have been a fabulous president. But that's an alternate universe...we have Trump instead. Clinton was the easy way to transition into Scandinavian style social democracy.
We gotta do it the hard way now. If Clinton can't help, she needs to get out of the way. If the DNC fights the will of the voters too hard then they will lose again just like in 2016.
If the voters want a more moderate candidate fair and square then the time has not yet arrived for the transition.
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If the Dems are doing what you say they are doing then they are doing a really piss poor job! That is unfortunate as I believe that Bernie cannot win against Trump. I am sure I have said this before but the Republicans will destroy Bernie. Remember, they did that to another presidential candidate and he was a genuine war hero!
Bernie just has too much baggage and his plan to force large companies, or any company that trades stock to give 20% of their worth to "the workers" is simply insane. That is, as far as I can tell one of the greatest job killing efforts anybody could have thought of! There are also other problems but that one sticks out for me. What I find completely strange is that the media, in its infinite wisdom has yet to even mention that one. All that being said Bernie has also turned into a serious eater of other candidates with inunendo, sly, and sometimes a bit silly. He just may have the capacity to lose all on his own. He, not unlike Trump, is making sure of his base and I am not convinced they are enough to let him win.
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If the Dems are doing what you say they are doing then they are doing a really piss poor job! That is unfortunate as I believe that Bernie cannot win against Trump. I am sure I have said this before but the Republicans will destroy Bernie. Remember, they did that to another presidential candidate and he was a genuine war hero!
Bernie just has too much baggage and his plan to force large companies, or any company that trades stock to give 20% of their worth to "the workers" is simply insane. That is, as far as I can tell one of the greatest job killing efforts anybody could have thought of! There are also other problems but that one sticks out for me. What I find completely strange is that the media, in its infinite wisdom has yet to even mention that one. All that being said Bernie has also turned into a serious eater of other candidates with inunendo, sly, and sometimes a bit silly. He just may have the capacity to lose all on his own. He, not unlike Trump, is making sure of his base and I am not convinced they are enough to let him win. “Prediction: if Sanders somehow manages to win the primary, a majority of the centrist pundits screaming “vote blue no matter who” at Bernie supporters right now will help amplify smear campaigns against him and undermine his campaign against Trump.” The author of this quote was to conservative. They’ve already started before he’s even won the nomination.
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Pete (Guaido) Buttegieg’s former campaign organizer has been hired by the Nevada Democratic Party as their ‘Vote Protection Director’.
My guess will be more hijinks in most every state. Those democracy loving Dems...
Anyone know if Nevada has paper backup?
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This is, obviously, yet another example of the Democrats screwing it up bigtime. This morning it started out with a simple program problem and easily fixed. Now its become a serious coding problem. No telling where its going to go from there.
Its often said; "Democrats have a real talent for screwing it up". This can add a little humor but the outcome is slightly different. Every time they do something stupid, like this, voters have got to be wondering whether they should be in charge of gov. This time, for me, its a really important election to get rid of a bullying and budding American King. My hope is that they will think things through before having at it. Anybody with half a brain knows that before you install a new program you test the hell out of it. We are now told that their testing was putting it into operating 2 hours before use! <sigh> America: Living proof of the Peter Principle. Yup. Reason #2,947 why I don't think we should give these idiots power over any other parts of our lives.
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If the Dems are doing what you say they are doing then they are doing a really piss poor job! That is unfortunate as I believe that Bernie cannot win against Trump. I am sure I have said this before but the Republicans will destroy Bernie. Remember, they did that to another presidential candidate and he was a genuine war hero!
Bernie just has too much baggage and his plan to force large companies, or any company that trades stock to give 20% of their worth to "the workers" is simply insane. That is, as far as I can tell one of the greatest job killing efforts anybody could have thought of! There are also other problems but that one sticks out for me. What I find completely strange is that the media, in its infinite wisdom has yet to even mention that one. All that being said Bernie has also turned into a serious eater of other candidates with inunendo, sly, and sometimes a bit silly. He just may have the capacity to lose all on his own. He, not unlike Trump, is making sure of his base and I am not convinced they are enough to let him win. As a Conservative worried about the long-term trajectory of both the Democratic Party and the Country (though not in that order).... ...please, nominate Bernie Sanders. Should he lose to Trump, the damage he will do to the far-left wing within the Democrat Party will discredit them. Should he win, the damage he will do (though he will fail to achieve his ends - thank you, Founders) to the country could have similar impacts as Wilson did, a century before. A new Coolidge administration sounds wonderful.
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