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I love AOC. Smart, personable, forward-thinking, she's the future. So is Buttigieg. I just wish she'd get off the Dem-soc train.

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Originally Posted by NW Ponderer
Steyers and Bloomberg will stay in for the messaging. Dems, I think, will support any nominee.

No. Sanders voters will not. One thing that's been learned is triangulation, much like karma, is a bitch and Sander's core support has become louder about not voting for the suit that gets pushed out in front of us as the party standard bearer. .

If all that matters to the 'blue no matter who' crowd is electability then there;s your answer. They won't have the votes to beat the president in November. Or, to paraphrase Herbert, the ability to destroy a thing is to control it. You want and sream about 'Democracy!', 'Electability!' then they have to bend the knee. They won't cuz it's all a grift, IMO.

Iowa has only hardened that resolve. Bernie or Bust

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F*** "Bernie or bust" bros. I mean that sincerely. If their fragile little egos can't accept compromise, they are enemies of their own cause. Prissy little purists.

Of course, I think that the vast majority of the Bernie crowd are not that stupid, as they voted for Hillary, and I think he'll be on board as he was in '16, but they are enthusiastic and we need that enthusiasm. We've been down this road before, and I think Bernie haa been a good thing. There is such a thing as too much of a good thing. But his shtick is old and tired. He needs to pass the torch.

If he is the nominee, I'll gladly vote for him, and I think he'll make a good President. But he needs a strong VP that represents the future. Someone that can pick up the mantle for the next 8 years. He's 78. He's not running again.

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The rigging of the primaries has forced progressives to compromise with their vote for a long while now. It's been a hostage situation for quit some time for many.

If the party continues to meddle in the primaries and shut out any left wing candidates as they have promised to do, all those leftists independants will say F#k yer party. Win it on your own then, assh0les!

That is the play for the DNC and the campaign arm of the Democratic Senate and Congressional committees right?

Anyone (that the party deems acceptable only) but Trump!
Blue (as the party determines it) no matter who

Cuz RUSSIA!

IF they keep grifting elections they will dig their electoral graves. Blame 'Bro's' if it helps you.


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Originally Posted by chunkstyle
No. Sanders voters will not. One thing that's been learned is triangulation, much like karma, is a bitch and Sander's core support has become louder about not voting for the suit that gets pushed out in front of us as the party standard bearer. .

Then you're the enemy.


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Originally Posted by NW Ponderer
F*** "Bernie or bust" bros. I mean that sincerely. If their fragile little egos can't accept compromise, they are enemies of their own cause. Prissy little purists.

Exactly this. If you can't handle coalition politics, then you are not only doomed, you're dooming everyone else as well.


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Originally Posted by chunkstyle
The rigging of the primaries has forced progressives to compromise with their vote for a long while now. It's been a hostage situation for quit some time for many.

If the party continues to meddle in the primaries and shut out any left wing candidates as they have promised to do, all those leftists independants will say F#k yer party. Win it on your own then, assh0les!

That is the play for the DNC and the campaign arm of the Democratic Senate and Congressional committees right?

Anyone (that the party deems acceptable only) but Trump!
Blue (as the party determines it) no matter who

Cuz RUSSIA!

IF they keep grifting elections they will dig their electoral graves. Blame 'Bro's' if it helps you.

So basically, your position is that if not enough people want Sanders, then they should get 4 more years of Trump to teach them a lesson?


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Your a goof.

You've pointed out the obvious for any leftist for years now. Glad you've figured out where you are and the time.

Biden, Emily's list, Thirdway, Obama, Pelosi, DCCC, DSCC, DNC have etc, etc etc

All have been showing their arses to leftists for decades and you finally state the obvious.

What next? Waters wet...

Thanks for the update slick


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So basically you GOT four years of trump due to elections fraud and white collar criminality. Happening again, by the way....

Lets talk about something pleasant. How about Russian elections meddling?


You might want to save your indignation for where it's better applied.

But that would require honesty?


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Chunk, my friend, you are constantly shooting at the wrong target. The enemy is over there! We're your friends, and friends don't let friends vote drunk. As I've said, innumerable times, follow your heart, until your heart elects right wing radicals and incompetents. Then, follow your brain. A journey of a thousand miles starts with the first step. In '16 there was one progressive on the ballot. Now there are how many?

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