Capitol Hill Blue Forums Political Issues Campaign 2020 First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020

So what you're saying is it's your way or the highway, right?

How about we dispense with all the backstabbing by the DNC and the DNC finally admits that maybe just MAYBE it should consider a move to the Left so that it isn't "Republican-Lite".
I say that because Republican-Lite isn't working, and it didn't work the last time, or the time before, or the time before that.

Carter got stabbed in the back by the GOP.
Clinton got impeached by the GOP.
Obama got backstabbed AND treated like a "FIELD NIGGER"...again BY the GOP.
Not even the "House" variety, the FIELD variety, the kind that gets whipped the most, gets tortured the most and shot at the most.
And of course, the ever so moderate Hillary...what can I say?

Just once, I would like moderate Democrats and moderately left independents to acknowledge the fact that we are not up against a moderate opposition. And the reason why Republicans keep echoing "concern troll" thoughts about our candidates is because what they really WANT is another "moderate" that they can destroy AFTER they get elected to the White House.

The reason they are so eager to destroy folks like Bernie or Liz is because they are terrified at the prospect of either of them getting elected. So they want to destroy them before that has a chance of happening.

For moderate Dems they have a different tactic, because they know a moderate Dem could beat Trump but won't cause much trouble once elected, and that is precisely when the Mitch McConnell plan goes into action. If in the minority, Mitch will wear out the filibuster button till it crumbles, then he will order a new one from Amazon and repeat ad nauseum.
If in the majority, well....we saw what happened there already.

Someone tell me HOW this mythical moderate Dem salve stops the burning sensation. I have yet to see any relief in almost thirty-some years.

That's it right there, Jeffery. I'm too old to wait three more presidents.

I think it would be a mistake for AOC to take a cabinet position. She needs more time in the House. Moving on so quickly sort of betrays the folks in her district who sent her. After a few terms, she could run for the Senate. If she does well as a Rep, she could win that Senate seat in New York.

She doesn't need to be the first woman President: Just the best. And to do that, I think she needs more experience in Congress.

Not only am I too old as well, but more importantly, our kids are WAY too vulnerable, especially my son Daryl.

I think if we run that on a loop everywhere, Trump heads will do the Mars Attacks thing.

So no wonder why the right wing talking heads despise her so much. She has the very thing they totally desire. Great big beautiful eyes and a shapely form. And athleticism. But wrapped up in a message they can’t nor won't abide.

Plus her intelligence gets in the way.

I have often wondered why they are so afraid of her.

The answer now is obvious.

Wow, my friend, I didn't buy a ticket on that train...

I am not a dem-soc, or dem, or soc. We've had this conversation too many times to repeat all of it again. I think the policies AOC and Bernie propose are great. I'm on board with that. It's the label they want to apply I have problems with. It's bad English. Which is the noun, which the adverb?

Social democracy I'm all for. Socialism? Not so much, democratic, totalitarian, or whatever. I'm not for "nationalizing" the means of production (although recognizing our ownership of some of it would be nice). Rather, I'm for creating programs for the benefit of our society, thus social democracy. I don't want to take away, I want to return more.

Labels, and definitions, matter.

I didn't buy a ticket for the Trump train, but here I am.