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The Scandinavians themselves have denied being socialist.
That's because they're NOT FECKING SOCIALISTS AND NOBODY BUT YOU EVER SAID THEY WERE!!!!!

Jesus fecking christ do you ever read anything that anyone writes?

Social democracy is not socialism, how many times over the years have I said this?

You are squabbling over a word that no one but you is even using.

Once, a long long time ago Bernie Sanders said he was a democratic socialist. Which is not the same thing as socialist because it has that democratic word in front of it but you will not be swayed....

The Scandinavian Model, all the while, continues to thrive and prosper! And our system looks like a clown car.

They have legislated living wages. They have national health care. They have education/childcare from nursery to college. They have family leave and paid time off. The system creates a lot of millionaires, a lot of happy workers and craftsmen, and a healthy successful society...but not many billionaires...and no one goes hungry.

But we can't have nice things like that because Russia and Venezuela...?

Good coffee, good weed, and time on my hands...