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Originally Posted by Greger
**But mostly this**
Did you pay any attention to the online smears against Bernie Sanders and his supporters by centrists over the last few years. Did you have no Bernie haters on Facebook? Did you pay any attention?

Not only did I witness that firsthand, I was drowned in a torrent of the exact opposite from the Busters, who then pivoted to Stein, or write in, or some other third party option.
I've already mentioned several times how every single Bernie page or group on social media got blitzkreiged.


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There is a rabid anti-Bernie faction of online democrats. They were there before the first Bernie Bro logged in. They were there from the day he announced his candidacy in 2016. They created Bernie Bros to smear Bernie Sanders and the leftist faction of the party. Push a little harder and we will abandon the party altogether.

There's rabid anti-everyone groups, anti-Bernie, anti-Biden, anti-Liz, anti-Tulsi, you name it. In the end however, one must look at the numbers. If you want to win, you need the numbers, which means you need the voters...to VOTE.

Rallies are fun. Voting is boring. The youth vote failed Bernie.
I didn't fail Bernie, people the age of my kids failed Bernie.
It wasn't a secret plot, it was dumb kids who can't be bothered to take a little time to go punch a card, pull a lever or click a button.

Sorry, I would love to know why this is a perennial problem with the youth vote. They cannot be counted on, so it seems.
And it didn't start in 2016.
Apparently it has always been that way.



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Sorry, I would love to know why this is a perennial problem with the youth vote. They cannot be counted on, so it seems.
And it didn't start in 2016.
Apparently it has always been that way.

Well, yes. Governance is generally the job of the elders. No one listens to young people or cares what they say. They count on grownups to make the right decisions. They trust us to do what is best for them. They trust us to elect candidates who will do the right thing.

Who is it exactly that can't be counted on...?


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Originally Posted by Greger
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Sorry, I would love to know why this is a perennial problem with the youth vote. They cannot be counted on, so it seems.
And it didn't start in 2016.
Apparently it has always been that way.

Well, yes. Governance is generally the job of the elders. No one listens to young people or cares what they say. They count on grownups to make the right decisions. They trust us to do what is best for them. They trust us to elect candidates who will do the right thing.

Who is it exactly that can't be counted on...?

Are you serious? They're eighteen, they're legally old enough to VOTE. Now we're supposed to vote FOR them?
One vote to a customer, sorry.

I have never missed an election...I couldn't wait to vote.
And yeah, too many of my friends couldn't be bothered, but hey...they liked meeting hot girls at the protests and the rallies.

But voting? Boring.
Even my WIFE admits that she never voted until she met me.


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From my experience, as a one time youth, the impact and importance of elections is not realized by most youth. It is only after their brain matures and gains experience that the importance and impacts of voting become apparent to them. A young person is still experiencing an independent life, and I place the blame for their ignorance about voting on their parents.


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Ronald Reagan and James Watt turned me into a voter.


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To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
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Voting rates have also historically varied according to age, with older Americans generally voting at higher rates than younger Americans (Figure 4). In 2016 citizens 65 years and older reported higher turnout (70.9 percent) than 45- to 64-year-olds (66.6 percent), 30- to 44-year-olds (58.7 percent) and 18- to 29-year-olds (46.1 percent).

https://www.census.gov/newsroom/blogs/random-samplings/2017/05/voting_in_america.html

Since 1980 18-29 year old have ranged from a low 39.6% voter turnout to a high of 52.0%. While 65 and older has ranged from 69.8% to a high of 76.1%

Figure 4 will give you the break down for the rest.

I don't blame the parents. Most kids have too many other things going on. Most worry more about how their favorite sports team are doing, having parties, going to college, working, a bunch of other things. Being young one doesn't worry too much or pay much attention to who is president or which party control congress.

It's natural.


It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.
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Originally Posted by logtroll
Ronald Reagan and James Watt turned me into a voter.

I turned eighteen in 1973.
The Grin Will Win was my first presidential election, and The Grin won.

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Are you serious? They're eighteen, they're legally old enough to VOTE. Now we're supposed to vote FOR them?
One vote to a customer, sorry.
We're supposed to be the grownups in the room. Do we allow 18 year olds to become president? Nope. Do we even allow 35 years olds to be president? Nope...Why? Because young people don't have good sense.

But you're all pissy because they didn't get out and vote for the candidate that you wanted to win while also smearing his supporters for months on end.

Governing is a grownup game and the kids really aren't invited. The constant anti-Bernie rhetoric drove them away.

They know Bernie would never be allowed to win whether they vote or not. Kids are pretty smart.


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Originally Posted by Greger
But you're all pissy because they didn't get out and vote for the candidate that you wanted to win while also smearing his supporters for months on end.

Governing is a grownup game and the kids really aren't invited. The constant anti-Bernie rhetoric drove them away.

Well now, that's refreshingly selective.
I guess the anti-everyone else rhetoric drove everyone else away, too...all except for Republicans, who somehow managed to just show up and pull a lever.
You'er making excuses and, on a far less important level, assigning selective memory to my posting history.

But it's okay, take a bow for the new generation.
They're clearly unable to do so for themselves, and God knows every previous generation deserves scorn for all the times they gave the younguns the sadz and made them fail to show up and vote, too.
Okay Boomer, got it wink

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They know Bernie would never be allowed to win whether they vote or not. Kids are pretty smart.

Good Lord, you just confirmed Rosario's entire point! LOL


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Rosarios point: a Facebook post that offers me a frame to confirm my bias.

Youth vote sucked when voting age was dropped to 18 and a war with conscription was happening.

What I did see was youth getting off their arse and out working other candidates professional organizations and not confining themselves to sh!tposting on the internet.

It’s hilarious watching liberals grind up their planting corn by rat effing the primaries.

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