Capitol Hill Blue Forums Political Issues Campaign 2020 First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020

That's what you fellow Dems want. I'm just going with the flow.

The Liberal Dems have had a concerted effort to rat F and suppress votes in the primaries while shaping a media narrative around the results of that rat f.
So that’s fine and pretty much sums up the Dem party. As I’ve always said, it’s an illiberal one that picks its nominated for its adherents to vote for, or ‘going with the flow’.

Party Dem’s are no different than MAGA chuds really. Believing in wild conspiracies, the infallibility of party doctrine and authoritarian seeking leaders.

I see very little to chose between Trump or Biden when it comes to policy. Both are crooked as a cork screw with the exception that Trump has much higher enthusiasm with his base than does Biden.

This enthusiasm gap may come back to haunt the Dem establishment. You can’t crap on one of the more diverse, enthusiastic coalitions and rat f them in the primaries but turn around and expect them to vote for you in the general, as happened in 2016.

My hope is Biden looses, the money walks away from the Dem party and allows a space for something better down the road. Good riddance to bad rubbish, etc

Biden is or will be the Democratic nominee. With 1677 delegates still to be awarded, Biden need 775 of them to reach the magic number of 1991. That 46.2% of all delegates left. Sanders needs 1077 or 64.3% of the remaining delegates. In simple English, Sanders must defeat Biden by 30 points in all remaining primaries to get the nomination. That isn't about to happen as Biden has leads of 10 to 30 plus points in the remaining states that have been polled.

The primaries scheduled for 4 Apr, Wyoming, Alaska and Hawaii, those states haven't been polls.

Wisconsin on 7 Apr has Biden up by 9

Primaries on 28 Apr
Pennsylvania Biden by 23
New York Biden by 16
Rhode Island hasn't been polled
Delaware Biden by 22

May and June primaries are too far out for a poll to be meaningful.

Now why would some Sanders supporters support Biden? They didn't support Hillary in 2016. We don't know how many stayed home as exit polls can't poll them. But we do know that Democrats voted for Hillary by a 89-8 margin over Trump with 3% voting third party. Sanders supporters who showed up at the polls did vote for Hillary, but by a 75-12 margin with a whopping 13% voting third party. Recent estimate place the percentage at 25% of Sanders supporters that won't vote for Biden. That's good news if one is a Trumper.

Not fair! Bernie PROMISED to support the Democratic candidate for president! Are you suggesting that Bernie will not keep his word?

SHAME!

Sanders will. Though the Democratic Party actively worked against him he will.
I don’t think progressives will come In the same numbers as they did in 2016 with 2020 being a similar repeat of Party interference.
You can’t shame people into voting. That’s not even politics.

By the way, Biden’s an accused rapist.

Whether progressives show up or not is strictly up to them. Now there is another group of voters that if Biden is denied the nomination because they think is due to shenanigans within the democratic party, especially since Biden has received the most vote, up to this time anyway. approximately 2.5 million more than sanders.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/democratic_vote_count.html

Blacks may be very reluctant to show up at the polls. They prefer Biden 70% to 24% over Sanders.

Why would Black be reluctant? They seem particularly motivated up until now, and heavily favor Biden.

The whole southern black voting bloc is a primary farce. I join the view that it’s primary purpose is to skew the media narratives of electability to a conservative geographic region that Dems don’t fare too well in with the general.

But yeah, if your posting numbers after the fact and not involved in numbers leading up to, say, Mass or Iowa, you didn’t have a front seat to the rat effing the Dem party engages in the primaries.

If you’ve ever been in a down ballot campaign for a Leftist progressive it’s even more overt. Plenty on Rahm Emanuel reporting here. I have never seen leftists thus angry or the media crafting fictions so obvious.

Note the current black out of Biden’s rape accuser as just one easy example of media craft. Not fact checking Biden’s raft of lies in his last debate would be another. Media shapes reality and has favored the enfeebled creep heavily.

Still no word from the Warren camp on the rape charges....
Nothing from the #resistance or pussy hats either..
Nothing from the pussy grabbing hot mic obsessed media...
No Neera Tandem tweets of support.

Kinda proves they should have never been taken seriously. It’s always been a morally transactional crowd with no solidarity.

Hows come?

I have no idea what other progressives might do, their vote is entirely their own to use or not use as they see fit. Perhaps when enough Americans just stop voting because it's a complete waste of time, the government will stop pretending that it cares one way or another about the voters. Then maybe we can get down to business.

And I don't need to hear any crap about "our democracy" because I haven't seen anything democratic about our government in my lifetime and history hasn't shown me that it existed at any point since the signing of the declaration either.

It's all about rich folks finagling government into doing what makes them the most money.

Voting for Biden because he will take us back to a time before Trump is rubbish. Any of the other 27 candidates could hire qualified people.

Biden will just lead us to the next Trump.

Mitch McConnell is almost old enough to run for president now isn't he?

Trump's is accused of child rape, and Sanders is accused of supporting pedophilia in some of his old writings. I think everybody has figured out by now under the Chief Pussygrabber Administration that 30 year old allegations of sexual misconduct don't mean much. 30 years ago, pretty much all men were more sexually aggressive. Some still are, but most of us have a few events in our past that make us cringe now.

Sometime in the past we got drunk and did stupid things. We got high on illegal drugs too, and broke even more laws by giving them to our friends. We even posted stuff online or looked at porn that we shouldn't have. We are all human, and humans make mistakes.