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Democrats respect the law because they are the party of regulation. Republicans, on the other hand, and NOT the party of regulation, and believe that regulation removes the individual's right to do the right thing. I keep harping on this, and have for years. The difference between the two parties is that one believes in original sin and the other does not. The side that believes also believes that humans need to be regulated, the other side does not.

The amazing thing is that the other side actually is the side that believes that EVERYBODY will do the right thing if given a chance. If they do not then something bad will happen to them and then they can serve as an example of somebody who didn't do the right thing. A good example are those who are retired and have no savings. The Right would prefer that there was no SS so those who have no savings could beg on street corners thereby proving their thesis.

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Originally Posted by jgw
Democrats respect the law because they are the party of regulation. Republicans, on the other hand, and NOT the party of regulation, and believe that regulation removes the individual's right to do the right thing. I keep harping on this, and have for years. The difference between the two parties is that one believes in original sin and the other does not. The side that believes also believes that humans need to be regulated, the other side does not.

The amazing thing is that the other side actually is the side that believes that EVERYBODY will do the right thing if given a chance. If they do not then something bad will happen to them and then they can serve as an example of somebody who didn't do the right thing. A good example are those who are retired and have no savings. The Right would prefer that there was no SS so those who have no savings could beg on street corners thereby proving their thesis.

They also believe that nobody ever gets wiped out through no fault of their own. I believe "poor choices" is the one size fits all platitude that they like to drop when that happens, as if an old man or woman in their declining years suddenly can predict global financial crashes or market volatilities unbeknownst to all but a tiny elite who get advanced notice, and act illegally on it, and get away with it more often than not.

But the old lady selling apples on the corner for a nickel should have known that stuff. She also should have known her husband would wipe out their savings with his medical bills, or that she might lose her home and everything she had in a massive fire set by an arsonist.

Poor choices, carry a large gun and you'll never have to worry about them anymore, because you can shoot those poor choices and be done with it.

I have to go throw up.


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The truly evil thing, is that "Let people choose the Right Thing". Means "Let me choose the Wrong Thing, and get away with it." Republicans want virtue from the poor but pretty consistently do anything to skirt the law for their own benefit.

Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone.

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Actually its a bit different. If you are poor then ITS YOUR FAULT! Coddling the poor with food, education, etc is just plain WRONG! You are then, again, not allowing them the freedom to learn their lessons!

Actually, Capitalism is a good thing! It has, for instance, raised millions out of poverty. The problem is that, not unlike a lot else, that when its not regulated bad things happen.

BOTH sides have a problem - lack of judgement and just going too far. The solution of the founders was to force 2 sides to sit down and do their work instead of one side having their way with no input by the other side. We seem to be, right now, failing because both sides are determined to have their own way over the other rather than actually doing the right thing. In this case refusing to actually sit down and legislate together.

If the Dems win the next election I fully expect them to sweep the field. Then THEY will be able to do what they want and they will, by definition, go too far and that will be a shame.


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Bob Cesca: "republicans embrace privatized, free market profits, but socialized losses". I couldn't agree more.
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Originally Posted by jgw
Actually its a bit different. If you are poor then ITS YOUR FAULT! Coddling the poor with food, education, etc is just plain WRONG! You are then, again, not allowing them the freedom to learn their lessons!

Actually, Capitalism is a good thing! It has, for instance, raised millions out of poverty. The problem is that, not unlike a lot else, that when its not regulated bad things happen.

BOTH sides have a problem - lack of judgement and just going too far. The solution of the founders was to force 2 sides to sit down and do their work instead of one side having their way with no input by the other side. We seem to be, right now, failing because both sides are determined to have their own way over the other rather than actually doing the right thing. In this case refusing to actually sit down and legislate together.

If the Dems win the next election I fully expect them to sweep the field. Then THEY will be able to do what they want and they will, by definition, go too far and that will be a shame.

They wouldn't be able to if the Repugnicants weren't submersed in their cult worship of the golden calf.

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They wouldn't be able to go too far because traditional and decent conservatives would be there to "keep them honest" and since they are decent, they would merit a rather universal form of respect, even as a minority party, even from those who don't always agree with them, and vice versa.

Yes, both sides have a problem, I freely admit that, but that's because both sides have always had the same problem...to a greater or lesser degree. There were times when it was to a lesser degree.

This is not one of those times.

But it wouldn't matter because right now one party is openly admitting contempt for pretty much any and all values set forth by our founders, contempt for democracy, contempt for the rule of law itself.

And they're willing to do whatever it takes to secure a permanent lock on power, even to the point of crashing and burning everything in one fell swoop. And they're actually eager to do so because most of them embrace or endorse a formerly fringe religious ideology that waxes poetic about the end times, thus they see themselves and their party turned cult as stewards of the end times, and they feel that crashing and burning the country is "God's work".
They openly state that their god commands them to do this.

Re: capitalism, agree wholeheartedly.
As I am fond of saying, we have FIRE regulations for a reason, and capitalism is a lot like FIRE.


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If Biden wins it might be smart to put Warren in charge of the stock markets?

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Warrens former career was in bankruptcy law, she could have any number of jobs within the Biden Administration.


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Absolutely true!

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