Originally Posted by Greger
Fear mongering and vote shaming really aren't gonna work y'know. Electing Biden is just setting yourselves up for failure.

If you are progressive and you feel that since Bernie won't make it, you can't vote for Biden as the lesser of two evils (Trump being the bigger evil), you are not considering the issue of judicial nominations.

Let's suppose Trump is re-elected and continues to nominate SC justices and federal judges in all courts. Say, two more justices die or retire and the SC becomes 7-2 conservative. Let's suppose, like you are saying, that then the Dems win in 2024, with, say, AOC who by then will be of age to run for president.

Now think of AOC's initiatives, the dream of her generation: the Green New Deal... legislation to curb fossil fuels... student loan relief... free college tuition... and so on and so forth.

Except that... fossil fuel industries sue in court... loan providers sue... colleges sue... and the courts, packed full with conservative judges and justices find for the plaintifs, and all AOC initiatives are struck down.

Then, remember, you can vote out a president or wait for his term limit, you can vote out a senator and a house representative, but you can't vote out a federal judge or a SC justice appointed for a lifetime.

So, you may end up with a problem that may last for the bulk of your generation's adult life.

This is why at this point it is wise to kick the can down the road by electing Biden (if we can; I think that Trump is still the favorite to win re-election).

Please take COVID-19 seriously; don't panic but don't deny it; practice social distancing (stay 6ft from people); wash your hands a lot, don't touch your face, don't gather with too many people, so that you help us contain it.