Originally Posted by CPWILL
Originally Posted by GreatNewsTonight
Originally Posted by Greger
Fear mongering and vote shaming really aren't gonna work y'know. Electing Biden is just setting yourselves up for failure.

If you are progressive and you feel that since Bernie won't make it, you can't vote for Biden as the lesser of two evils (Trump being the bigger evil), you are not considering the issue of judicial nominations.

Huh. That is exactly why so many Trump fans told me that, as a Conservative, I had to hold my nose and vote for him.


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Let's suppose Trump is re-elected and continues to nominate SC justices and federal judges in all courts. Say, two more justices die or retire and the SC becomes 7-2 conservative. Let's suppose, like you are saying, that then the Dems win in 2024, with, say, AOC who by then will be of age to run for president.

Now think of AOC's initiatives, the dream of her generation: the Green New Deal... legislation to curb fossil fuels... student loan relief... free college tuition... and so on and so forth.

Except that... fossil fuel industries sue in court... loan providers sue... colleges sue... and the courts, packed full with conservative judges and justices find for the plaintifs, and all AOC initiatives are struck down.

We would be blessed indeed if the structure of our government - wisely left us to allow faction to check faction and to keep us from being able to shove through massive changes on a narrow temporary majority and without widespread consensus - stopped such a nightmare raft.

Well, but it isn't balanced. The conservatives currently hold the White House, the Senate, and have a Supreme Court majority. The Dems which is a party made of one-third progressives and two-thirds moderates, hold the House. So if the conservatives keep being nominated non-stop for the courts, it will tilt the balance even more in favor of conservatives. I'd prefer things a bit more balanced.


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