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Why WOULDN'T the world want to know the why and how when it comes to gain of function studies on zoonotic virii transmission to humans? Whether we do the research ourselves, or the Chinese do it, or they do it with our help, or without, research like that IS going to be done, somewhere, by someone anyway.

It has not at all been proven that HCQ works even in mild/initial cases.

Again, while I didn't read the VA study, I read a report that the disadvantage of the treated arm remains, after you apply adjustments to the severity degree.

What I said about number-to-treat and number-to-harm came from other studies that I did read, not the VA study.

I need to read the VA study at some point to form an opinion, because what I'm saying is hearsay so you may be right.

Thanks. Today I saw an article (lay press, not a scientific paper) saying that the virus has already mutated and the new strain is the one with the high R0. Whether this is true or not I don't know because I didn't explore the source, and again, it was a lay press article and the lay press often misinterprets scientific papers.

I, too, experience this cycle of hope and despair. And anger. I am mightily angry that the current circumstance has come to pass because of endemic short-sightedness. We've known the risk of a SARS-related pandemic for decades - DECADES - and steps were initially taken to mitigate the potential catastrophe we are experiencing.

After the H1N1 epidemic of 2009, which WAS so contained, our national leadership (read: Republicans) simply lost the thread. The budget was slashed, requiring Hobson's choices for the Obama Administration about what to restock in the National Stockpile - unfortunately making some of the wrong choices. But those understandable choices were exacerbated by the completely insane choices of the current administration. Disbanding the Pandemic Response Team, demoting experts that issued warnings about the potential catastrophe that was looming (sounds like China's response, actually), stubbornly refusing to take steps to mitigate the impact - with warnings, restocking, or planning, and pushing the response to the State and local level - for a NATIONAL epidemic. That is inexcusable. Until the leadership is reorganized (removed), I fear the worst.

because of the novelty of this virus the research will be fast and furious and until we get a chance to catch our breathe, the results of research will be all over the place.

If your State allows it, find 190 proof Everclear. It has been more available than most other sources. Ethanol is actually more effective for viruses than isopropyl. At 190 proof, it can even be slightly diluted and still be effective.

We were pretty well-stocked before this event - except with Kleenex - because my wife has a longstanding condition that requires high levels of cleanliness and disinfection, but our supply of hand sanitizer and gloves is dwindling.

Not just stock but PRICE!
We can get the Everclear and we may just go ahead and get it but I think the price is now at the point where it's a lot cheaper for me to just brew my own, seeing as I don't intend to drink it.

I think I'll try to see if local liquor stores have it cheaper, but I hate going out right now.

"Today I saw an article (lay press, not a scientific paper) saying that the virus has already mutated and the new strain is the one with the high R0."

Yes, virus mutate quickly, COVID-19 splint into two strains the Asian and the European (my terms). The European strain is what hit the US east coast and the Asian hit the west coast. There is some concern the European strain may not be affected by the current drugs undergoing testing and it also may be unaffected by the vaccine.

More than you'll ever want to know about COVID - Coronavirus COVID-19 (SARS-CoV-2) report from Johns Hopkins.

Coronavirus mutations: Scientists puzzle over impact, BBC Health News.

So everything could change at the next outbreak, Oh JOY

Six local liquor stores, and all of them have been sold out of Everclear since the pandemic hit.

You can substitute those Rubber Maid kitchen gloves and they can take an Everclear bath, or wash them on your hands in HOT water and soap.

As always, my posts are my opinion.