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What worries me is that there are two ways to read this poll. It can also be read as 55% of independents say it would be same or worse with Obama, that is, they don't blame Trump.

**cautiously raises hand**

Capitalism is not a problem as long as gov does its job and regulates it. This is the way its supposed to work. The problem is greed and the simple fact that the American voting public seems to tend to electing the greedy. When that happens capitalism runs out of control. Right now, for instance, capitalism seems to have been successful in convincing a lot of the public that Covid-19 is either a myth or not much to worry about and to start the economy no matter what. The graphs are starting to show the results of that one and its gonna get a LOT worse! Now add in that Trump actually believes that if he can get the economy started again then he can get elected again. The man, I think, believes his own bullsh*t as that's not gonna happen no matter what.

We are well on our way to watching a complete and utter meltdown as well. This is not going to end well and be even vaguely pleasant to watch. I suspect, however, that its also going to be educational for them that survive the resulting mess.

i wish us all luck!!

I'm starting to feel like everything we've been through so far won't make a dent of a difference. We still have 95% of the people susceptible. We have community transmission worse than when we first locked down. So we're opening up, and will probably end up right at square zero and see exponential growth of the contagion, again.

Since we didn't use these few weeks of lockdown and flattening of the curve to significantly increase testing, PPE stocks, and ventilator capacity, one wonders what was the point, if we just open up everything again and see this thing flare up and overwhelm the healthcare system just like it would have happened a few weeks ago.

Other developed countries did implement a longer, better enforced, and more complete lockdown and are now collecting the benefits, with new cases and new deaths dramatically down. We had a half-baked lockdown, with wild regional differences, and we are so spoiled that soon we got bored and restless, and we're screwing up already. So, we never really brought down the curve, we just stayed for a month in a plateau above 1,000 deaths per day and above 25,000 new cases per day, and now we'll just go up and up to 3,000 deaths a day and who knows if even more.

Our stupidity will make of us the absolutely worst hit country on Earth, at least among the fairly developed countries (I shudder at what might happen in large and populous African countries, for example).

But as socialists go I'm a sort of centrist socialist. The social democracy practiced in the Scandinavian states is my aim and things are still going okay even with Biden up to take over.

He's no longer really relevant to my plans. The corona virus, everywhere in the world except here, has brought people together even as it has forced them apart.

Even here it's making a better case for M4A than democratic socialists ever could.

The failures of capitalism and government run by capitalists are many and are on bold display.

Been saying it constantly, but no one seems to take it seriously:

Trump is going to resort to starting a war.

It's not the stupidity, it's the capitalism.


I've been wondering about this. What has kept this out of the worlds slums? Why aren't we seeing deaths in the millions?

Is it just a matter of time?

I don't know if I'm viewed as one of the socialists (I'm definitely not a Socialist), but I do advocate frequently and strongly to recognize that free-market Capitalism is a death wish, and that we need to relax on the word "socialism" and recognize that collaboration, cooperation, and mutual social support are not only not bad things, they are the foundation of ethical, honest, and good government. The fact is, I am functionally probably the most capitalistic person currently on this blog in the classic meaning - I am an independent businessperson who controls the the means of production using capital to purchase raw materials to be made into value added products to sell to a willing market. My lifelong experience with exactly what that means leads me to believe that the system could profit from quite a bit more social support to better care for the general Welfare of the populace.

Very true, that's the same way I read the 2016 election results, 54% of America voting against Trump with 52% saying no to Hillary.

But those are not the stats which elected Mr Trump, I believe it was the differential of 77k more votes for Mr Trump over 3 states which won the electoral vote.

Can anyone imagine an election won by a margin of under 5k votes? Republican efforts at disenfranchisement typically targets just 5k-10k highly likely Democrat voters. And of course Republicans can now go to the SC and have them stop the count and award an election to their favorite candidate. (Note I did not say Democrat because of the obvious ... )