Warnings about Clinton surfaced in Feb of 2016 when two different polls showed 56% of all Americans, all Americans, independents, Republicans, Democrats wanted the Democrats to nominate someone other than Hillary. That right there showed anyone paying attention that she would have a rough time winning. That over half of all America, America as a whole didn't want her.

Now all of America, America as a whole doesn't choose the Democratic Nominee, Democrats do. On another site I said at that time the Democratic chose her at their own peril. A very dumb choice going by the numbers. Of course I still expected her to win only because the Republicans chose Trump. I was wrong there. I had resigned myself to a Clinton presidency. I was really surprised Trump won. I got that forecast wrong.

So what do those who aren't party loyalist, the non-affiliated, what do they do when they don't want want either major party candidate as their next president? There were two choices, you could vote for the lesser of two evils, the least worst candidate among the two major party candidates, the candidate you want to lose the least, not win, but lose the least. Or you could vote against both since you don't want neither one to become president. That is what 9 million people did. Keep in mind those same 9 million people told the Democrats they didn't want Clinton back in Feb 2016. The Democrats didn't care and told those 9 million people to go pound sand.

So there's no reason to blame them. Their intentions and feelings about Hillary were known 8 months in advance of the election. Basically, the Democrats said we don't need you, we don't want you, stuff it where the sun don't shine. So don't blame the 9 million for following through with their convictions which the were well known by the Democrats.

Also keep in mind they didn't vote for Trump although they didn't like and didn't want Hillary near the White House. They also didn't want Trump. When you told by the democrats they don't want your vote and told big time they don't care one iota about you. Which was the Democrats right. Don't cry into split milk because you didn't get their vote. You could have, you could have won going away had you listened to 56% of all America. It's not 56% of all America fault Trump won because you ignored them.

For your info, back in Nov 2016 party affiliation was 33% Democratic, 27% Republican, 40% independent. 70% of independents, the largest voting block, larger than those who identify with the Democratic party or the Republican party disliked and didn't want Hillary, 57% didn't want Trump. Who do they vote for?

Questions 10 and 11

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Maybe we need to revise and change how we select the candidates. When 40% of America has no say in who will be the candidates, maybe a change is due. Independents have risen from 30% of the electorate in 2006 to 40% today or a point or two higher. Perhaps the two major parties need to try to find the reason folks are deserting the two major parties? But they have all the power, I don't think they care. I actually think both parties are glad about it, they're losing moderates while retaining their hard core. So we're entering an era where independents will vote 60% for one party in one election, then 60% for the other party the next. This is what will and is happening when both parties ignore this particular group of voters.


It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.