Capitol Hill Blue Forums Political Issues Politics In General Is it too soon to be talking 2020?

Yeah, da numbers..
I see Trump signs vs. Biden signs at around 10-1 around me. Then again, I live in rural upstate NY that’s been moving Republican since the 80’s.

I’ve gotten no texts or phone calls from the Biden campaign. Not one. Ditto on canvassing.

No voter outreach at all, unless you count the liberal online heckling and shaming like it was in 2016. For all the screechiness of how dangerous this president is, libs sure don’t campaign like it.

Chunk, anecdotal observations do not a scientific survey make.

Aw, c'mon Rick. Our whole society and political economy runs on anecdotal evidence. Heck, our politics are nothing more than warring Madison Ave. ad accounts subsidized by rich people to push the best mascot out for a minority of voters to chose.

Commodifying surveys and the attendant huckster Numerologists to explain them to us thru corporate media channels isn't exactly the same as isolating isotopes is it?

But I take your point. My location would be anecdotal, I suppose, but yard signs turned out to be a key indicator of voter enthusiasm in the key battleground states of 2016, no?

Hey, why not conduct a Rant survey?

Upstate NY- Liberal suburban enclaves are Biden by 70% if there's a colledge or large school in town. Wealthy west lake roads are mixed. East lake (less wealthy but still expensive) has more Trump v. Biden 65/35 maybe. Rural spaces between are solid Trump. Like 80%.

That's actually better than what I saw in 2016 for Hillary.

Whichew got?

His problem, I think, is that he is counting on the judges he has appointed to be HIS judges. I don't think that will happen. If it does we are doomed.

Rural spaces in between cities contain very few voters in comparison. Why waste money courting those voters in NY or all places, that is sure to vote for Biden. He'd be an idiot to waste that money on a state he's going to win, when it can do some good in swing states.

I’m sure your right PIA.
As the Democratic parties realignment, as a now mostly professional class, suburban oriented, Republican allied party has proven over the last several election cycles, they seem to have only contempt for the outlying regions beyond the outer bands of metropols.

When you get the voter rolls for texting, you don’t necessarily know where the registered voter lives. There are also a helluva lot of large towns and small cities in upstate. No one I know from Buffalo to Schenectady has gotten any text or calls yet. Maybe, like Michigan, the Dems see these regions won already, as you say.

Perhaps Ranters from the battle ground states of Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, etc.. could comment?


Micheal Moore has been sounding the alarm, again, on the lack of organizing and elbow rubbing in Michigan. Saying it’s looking like a repeat of 2016.

I have no dog in this fight. It’s hilarious watching the factions strategies play out. Dems burned a billion dollars, with no accountability where it went, in 2016 with an arguably more coherent candidate than Biden, who’s looking more and more as a place holder for the identitarian cop, Harris. It’s amazing, after over 200k dead and massive job loss, that Trump has been able to keep it this close.

But this is theater and everybody likes a close game. Win or lose, the rich continue to get richer while the the poor get poorer. Makes no difference what brands running the show, IMO.

Not that amazing...look at his opponent...

When Democrats realized that a warm bucket of spit would probably be able to defeat Trump...they chose Biden.

Now, if your guess is right, they're gonna try to shoehorn Harris into the presidency in 2024. She already failed miserably to attract the interest of Democratic voters and isn't liable to win that many hearts and minds as VP....

It's like fecking groundhog day y'know...?

He shouldn't have to spend money there! Grass roots voters should be buying signs flags and banners from the local Democratic Party Headquarters.

My ex just had 24 Biden/Harris signs printed to give away to her friends. I think there's one on the lawn at my town house...I haven't left the compound for weeks...my ballot has arrived, I'll vote a straight Democratic ticket same as always...not because I like Democrats...but because I hate Republicans worse.

I see little no difference between both right wing factions.
Who said it? Republican politicians are scared of their voters, Democrats hate theirs..

Democrat politicians need to be scared.

On Sunday, former Trump campaign manager Brad Parscale who was demoted in July right after the disastrous Tulsa event, was taken by police to the hospital due to threats of self-harm. Today, Parscale announced that leaving the Trump campaign all-together because of stress.

Yeah...it's stressful carrying around the guilt of embezzling $140M from the Trump campaign, apparently. Because it's totally normal for campaign managers to be able to buy two luxury condos, and nice yacht and a Ferrari on their salary.