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There was a ton of money from out of state trying to buy Georgia's two senators. I expect that will continue to the tune of 200 million or more.
Along with all the negative personal attacks ads, I really hate the outside the state trying to buy our two senators. I'd like to see an amendment that simply states that if one can't vote for a candidate, then they can't donate.
We'll see what happens, but what you described, the other side will be doing exactly the same thing. I just hate the idea of all the personal negative attack ads dominating the airwaves. Luckily, the Braves season is over. I don't watch much if any live TV.
No predictions from me, it's way too early to determine the mood of Georgians.
It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.
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I'd like to see an amendment that simply states that if one can't vote for a candidate, then they can't donate. I have thought the same thing for a long time. When I was a kid, Idaho was a solid blue state - blue collar workers in agriculture, logging, ranching, and mining. By my late teens, the energy industry (mostly Texas oil money, according to reports of the time) had been "buying" senators and representatives, not because they cared about Idaho issues, but because they wanted anti-environment votes in Congress. That money was largely spent on a successful campaign of fear that turned the unions and extractive industry grunts in the unions into Republican supporters. At about the same time there was a huge influx of wealthier Californians, selling out their comparably higher priced properties (4X$) and retiring to the environmentally attractive, less populated, and lower taxed Gem State. That pretty much completed the conversion of Idaho from deep blue to deep red.
You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete. R. Buckminster Fuller
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I'd also like it if out of state candidates would stop begging incessantly for money. Most notably Jaime Harrison and Amy McGrath.
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I agree with both of you. According to Open Secrets we had one candidate for the senate that made the runoff receiving 80% of his campaign funds from out of state.
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It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.
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There was a ton of money from out of state trying to buy Georgia's two senators. I expect that will continue to the tune of 200 million or more. . The problem is the RNC is broke thinks to Donald Trump and Brad Parscale. The DNC isn't. 
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My wife came up with a good strategy for the Democrats in Georgia:
"Want a pandemic stimulus check? An unemployment extension? Vote for both Democratic Senate candidates, because a Republican Senate is going to let you get evicted and starve."
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You...
Yes, YOU!
I'm asking you to help with your support to turn back the senate ...
Same in NY. The 'Ditch Mitch' con they ran was everywhere. A doomed senate race but a very successful money raise for the DSCC.
Posted a video of the reconciliation meetings after the 2016 campaign that featured Naomi Konst breathing fire at this grift...
To bad about Booker. They had a shot with him in Kentucky, IMO. Chuck had his medicine show going by then. Booker, too, ran out of runway but his rise in the polling was very good over the course of his primary campaign.
Would what the final haul? $95,000,000 or something like it?
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I agree with both of you. According to Open Secrets we had one candidate for the senate that made the runoff receiving 80% of his campaign funds from out of state. It may be the main reason rural states are red - they are still being mined for their congresscritters. We've has several here in NM recently who also got something like 80% of their campaign cash from out-of-state interests.
You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete. R. Buckminster Fuller
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It’s occurred to me that the McGrath campaign may have been something other than an honest election bid. If so, then what was it? It’s curious that the liberals are now full on embracing the security state, going so far as to run former military and intelligence people for the senate and congress this election. More than the last cycle, I believe. So if McGrath’s money flowed In from outside of Kentucky, what was hoped for by the people cutting the checks? Her campaign never looked to be a real threat to McConnell. There’s been much reporting on the intelligence communities shady dealings in drug and human trafficking in order to help fund off book operations. Ollie North was the rare case made public. Or they do some banana brained eff up, like flying a plane load of coke into a mountain, making news. The money in the industrial election complex is huge. Would it be a way to launder money as it generates so much revenue? It’s just as nefarious a bizness as prostitution and drug dealing. I would argue more, in terms of death and destruction it generates. Just spitballing, but if we’re accepting the intelligence community in our news rooms, film studios and now our elected political body, why wouldn’t they avail themselves of the money gorged bribery that takes place in our elections?
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It’s occurred to me that the McGrath campaign may have been something other than an honest election bid. So...do I think McGrath is crooked or in the pockets of big corporate donors? Not really. She was just fortunate from a fundraising standpoint to be running against one of the most reviled Senators who has ever lived. There was probably some nefarious fundraising carried out on the back of her campaign though. McGrath will probably run again and has the war chest and face recognition to one day be a US senator.
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