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Wayne Co, MI was auditing election results while the Trump campaign was filing suits to stop the count. The board had a split vote on certification of results which emboldened Mr Trump to crow Republicans stopped the fraud. Almost immediately the board reconvened and voted to certify the results.
The Trump campaign is now going to pay for a recount of selected counties in Wisconsin.
I don't know how this fits with a strategy to get a lawsuit to the SC so the last 3 confirmed justices will ensure Mr Trump wins the election. All I can say is .... Giuliani
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Ghouliani has turned into a grifty idiot. Rudy Colludy is charging Trump $20K a day...fools and their money are soon parted. 
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That Michigan county story is a bit more complicated: The two Republican county election canvassers voted in favor of not certifying Detroit's election. One actually said she would certify the (mostly White) suburb vote, but not the (mostly Black) inner city vote. Of course, they had absolutely no evidence of any fraud, other than Trump's twitter ravings. Election officials said they saw no evidence of fraud. (Other than Black People Voting, of course.)
After a bit of public reaction, they decided to certify the entire county election. So the two Democrats and the two Republicans on the county canvassing board did all vote to certify.
Then Trump called them, and they now say they want to change their votes back to not certify. But it's too late. There is no legal channel to decertify. So the process moves on to the state level.
I wonder if this is analogous to Trump's lawyers filing lawsuits they know will fail: They don't want to do anything that might have real repercussions, like losing their license, so they make a faint effort for appearances sake.
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OK folks .... it is clear now what the grand strategy is .... and hold on to your seats.
The grand strategy is Congressional nullification. That's right folks. The plan is for Republicans to nullify the electors as illegitimate, thus forcing the election to the House where Mr Trump wins.
Unbelievable ... and I still don't believe these clowns are even trying this.
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OK folks .... it is clear now what the grand strategy is .... and hold on to your seats.
The grand strategy is Congressional nullification. That's right folks. The plan is for Republicans to nullify the electors as illegitimate, thus forcing the election to the House where Mr Trump wins.
Unbelievable ... and I still don't believe these clowns are even trying this. As if the Dem-controlled House will vote for Trump. 
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A House vote on who would be President is by State, each state gets one vote and I believe the Republicans control the majority of state delegations - after taking into account those state delegations that would nullify themselves because they are equally split. Ergo, Trump wins. Republican Edge in Electoral College Tie Endures Though published 9 Jan 2020, it is still valid and clearly explains what happens. If President Donald (Coward, Traitor, Misogynist, Demagogue, Criminal, Serial Predator, Adulterer, Draft Dodger, Narcissist, Liar, Thief, Grifter, Incompetent, Bully, Braggart, Loser, etc) Trump* is attempting to force a house vote, he wins. Ah, the hidden benefits of Gerrymandering... 2020 House Election: Party Composition by State *Impeached
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Should the House have to determine the presidency, there is a procedure .... and it is not what you think.
Each state will receive one and only one vote. That vote is determined by a majority within each state. Thus if one state had 12 R's and 15 D's, probably the D's will get the one and only one vote. Currently, by my count, there are 26 state delegations which are Republican (and one state split). So if it goes to the House we would have 26 for Mr trump, 23 for VP Biden, and one, no count. Thus Mr trump would remain as occupant of WH.
Rep Mo Brooks from AL said yesterday he would not certify any state counts which he believed were tainted by fraud. He is of course one of the right wing nuts and may represent the thinking of all of the right wing nuts, in both the House and Senate. This may be a factor worth considering, especially since it would appear this may be the Trump campaign strategy i.e. nullify votes to force the House to elect the president.
Just when you thought the nightmare was ending, the boogieman popped up again.
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I didn't realize one person could have so many epithets of such elevated quality.
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I'm just patiently waiting for January 20 to arrive.
Good coffee, good weed, and time on my hands...
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I didn't realize one person could have so many epithets of such elevated quality. Thank you. Have had the last 4 years to gather and about 20 years in the New York City Tri-State (New York, Connecticut and New Jersey) area to learn about him and his character. Besides President Donald (...) Trump* provided such fertile ground for the growing of the list. *Impeached
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