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Trump is trying to get states to ignore the vote and send a Trump delegate slate to the Electoral College, but he's already failed at that in several states. Republican Secretaries of State are telling him they are going to follow their state's laws and certify for the winner of the election. How about this for pathetic: Giuliani Goofed Giuliani’s epic rant in his latest wild news conference about suspicious voting in Michigan was based on a glaring mistake: President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer was complaining about vote counts in Minnesota districts, not in Michigan.
That obliterated Giuliani’s claims Thursday of discrepancies in district populations and suspiciously large voter turnouts. The figures mangled overvote percentages by comparing the number of expected district votes in one state to the populations of completely unrelated districts in another state. I think Trump has used up all the sane lawyers and is now left with Giuliani. Typical Dunning–Kruger effect: Trump is not competent enough to identify a competent lawyer. At some point, courts are just going to have to declare him a vexatious litigant or send him for a 90 day psychiatric committment.
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Heritage Foundation’s Hans von Spakovsky has been peddling this strategy for some time. People in this forum have pooh poohed the idea as unworkable or having no viability, and yet here we are with a growing number of Republicans calling for this very thing. Decertify the vote and therefore throw the selection to Republican legislatures. If thrown to Congress we would have arguments over which set of electors is legitimate. There is already one congressman, Rep Mo Brooks, who will not accept electors from any state which he believes has illegitimate votes counted. If there is one of these nuts there are more.
Maybe we can get a poll on how many congressmen will not certify the electors selected by the will of the people.
Is there anyone left who does not believe this is an emboldened attempt to overthrow the duly elected president?????
ignorance is the enemy
without equality there is no liberty
America can survive bad policy, but not destruction of our Democratic institutions
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Trump and his toadies are going well beyond "exploring his legal alternatives". Some of the things they have done are actually against various state and federal laws. If we don't want this happening again, we need to prosecute where laws have been broken.
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It was a week ago that Sidney promised to release the Kraken... I wonder what she is waiting for? I heard the Pennsylvania case that was tossed yesterday (by the Republican judge) was supposed to be the release venue - maybe the Kraken died in captivity?
If it was released, I muthta mythed it...
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Trump and his toadies are going well beyond "exploring his legal alternatives". Some of the things they have done are actually against various state and federal laws. If we don't want this happening again, we need to prosecute where laws have been broken. This is exactly why ol' Joe needs to investigate the Trump Administration - even though ol' Joe doesn't want to. Obama let W off the hook for war crimes and many Americans are still pissed about that! Unfortunately, if ol' Joe doesn't investigate Trump and hold him and his cronies accountable, the Republican behavior, already outrageous, will become even more outrageous than it is today. 
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It was a week ago that Sidney promised to release the Kraken... I wonder what she is waiting for? I heard the Pennsylvania case that was tossed yesterday (by the Republican judge) was supposed to be the release venue - maybe the Kraken died in captivity?
If it was released, I muthta mythed it... Even serial killer Tucker Carlson* is waiting for Sydney's evidence and has stated so publicly on his show this week. *Tucker Carlson is a serial killer with a whole room full of dolls made from parts of people he murdered. It’s an indisputable fact. 
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It’s the Valhalla rule, IMO, Rick. Striking one god means that all other gods are vulnerable to injury. Even if it’s a god despised by the rest, they will defend him/her lest they be struck.
In a way, another example of class solidarity that’s very strong in the ruling classes. An unwritten rule that is forbidden for the rest of society. Hence the vilifying of any organizing that challenges them in any way for resources. Labor unions, BLM, leftists (hardly organized but vilified) teachers, etc..
It’s why meritocracy and it’s implementation, means testing, that both political factions have shoved down our throats since the 80’s, is such a fraud and theft of public resources.
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>Some of the things they have done are actually against various state and federal laws. Michigan attorney general looks at criminal charges According to the sources that spoke to The Washington Post, the attorney general is examining whether any of the state officials engaged in bribery, perjury or conspiracy. New Jersey Democratic Rep. Bill Pascrell has filed a complaint with New York’s attorney disciplinary officials, calling for the disbarment of Rudy Giuliani for “fraud” and “deceit” in his actions attempting to overturn the presidential election without any justification.
“Mr. Giuliani has participated in the filing of a series of absurd lawsuits seeking to overturn the will of the voters ... and has caused irreversible damage to the public trust in the fair administration of our elections,” Pascrell wrote Friday to the Grievance Committee for three New York Judicial Districts.
He accused Giuliani, who is leading Donald Trump’s attack on the results of the presidential election, of “clearly” violating the state’s Rules of Professional Misconduct that prohibit “dishonesty, fraud, deceit” and “misrepresentations.” New York also prohibits attorneys from filing frivolous lawsuits.
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It was a week ago that Sidney promised to release the Kraken... I wonder what she is waiting for? I heard the Pennsylvania case that was tossed yesterday (by the Republican judge) was supposed to be the release venue - maybe the Kraken died in captivity?
If it was released, I muthta mythed it... Hahaha! I figured it out... Sidney was, indeed, the Kraken who she said would be released within two weeks! Her powers are certainly mythical. She will be mythed... The Trump administration is astonishingly self-satirizing. It would be super funny if it wasn’t so destructive.
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I visited a Trump supporting web site, whose owner self described herself as a skeptic. It was abundantly clear she was simply hosting a clearinghouse for every baseless allegation anyone could concoct. I say baseless since all of the ones mentioned have been investigated and found lacking in evidence, despite the fact she solicited "reasonable" allegations of fraud.
It become clear to me Trump supporters have accepted as fact these allegations, and when confronted describe the facts as liberal propaganda.
My conclusion is there are about 70M people in this country who believe PE Biden stole an election, using a global cabal of conspirators, including communists and dead people, election poll workers, polling machine owners, as well as many Republicans and canvassers. This conspiracy is so large it is amazing one of them hasn't dropped a dime on the criminality of it all.
This election will not be over in my lifetime.
ignorance is the enemy
without equality there is no liberty
America can survive bad policy, but not destruction of our Democratic institutions
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