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Lots of callers are reporting election fraud by an elderly mentally-impaired fat man living at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue in D.C. So many such calls came in that Laura Trump tweeted they were changing the phone number. Of course, new reports promptly came in to the new number...
I guess she hasn't figured out that you have to publish the number to get any calls, and then the pranksters will just call the new number. The sad thing is that even having such a hotline to report election fraud, means the Trump team has no actual evidence, but they would like some.
That "having no evidence" thingie is really hampering their lawsuits when they get in front of a judge. You would think their high-priced lawyers would know that, and search for evidence BEFORE running to a judge. But I guess they are getting paid by the hour. Might damage a few lawyer careers, though, since lawyers do get sanctioned sometimes for filing frivolous no-evidence lawsuits.
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so far I have only found one case which has a legal standing (an affidavit sworn under oath) alleging fraud. A postal worker alleges the local PM in Erie PA told workers to collect all ballots found after election day and stated we would "backdate" ballots for Nov 3. Local counters found there were 135 ballots sent to counters which were apparently the ones picked up after Nov 3. There is no status on mailing dates but there was a breakdown of votes cast .... 65 Biden .... 60 Trump ... and the rest to 3rd party and write-ins.
It is not clear whether ballots were collected up until and including Nov 6, but I can imagine a PM thinking if ballots are collected on Nov 4, most likely they were mailed on Nov 3 and probably by 8PM. The last mail pickup in many places is 4PM. So he may have actually backdated those ballots, not wishing to disenfranchise late mailing voters.
Should it be found true, Mr Trump would have a net gain of 5 votes .... and I am sure in his mind that is enough to have won the Commonwealth of PA.
update!!!!
This clown fabricated his fantastical story.
Now why couldn't Republican sycophants have vetted this nut???? ....
Listened to the nut attorney Giuliani and I have an idea their strategy is to present cases in state courts then appeal and finally make it to SC where they believe they will win with their conservative hand picked majority .... and if that doesn't work, they will appeal to Republican state legislatures to not certify results and select their own (Trump) list of electors. In either case their intent is to steal an election.
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ignorance is the enemy without equality there is no liberty America can survive bad policy, but not destruction of our Democratic institutions
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ok finally got a case from Texas.
A social worker in Mexia fraudulently registered 67 people at an assisted care facility. She was charged. It is a crime in Texas to register people without their consent.
There are no reports if any ballots were cast.
I suspect this is a case of dumb and dumber. She thought she would be "helping" someone running for office if she could register a bunch of people. Wouldn't it be ironical if she thought she was helping Mr Trump.
ignorance is the enemy without equality there is no liberty America can survive bad policy, but not destruction of our Democratic institutions
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Apparently a lot of the lawyers filing bogus lawsuits for Trump are worried they could lose their licenses to practice law if they commit outright fraud. (Knowingly filing a fraudulent lawsuit is fraud on the part of the lawyer! Who knew?)
So they are being very careful in what they claim. For example one suit complained about the vote counting room being very loud, as if counters were counting in their heads and could lose track because of noise. Another suit complained about the presence near the poll watcher of "a large intimidating man". All real complaints (not fraud), but not anything you could sue over.
I think this is the reason why they keep on getting dismissed: They are designed to get dismissed without any lawyers getting sanctioned! So Trump's "legal defense" is just as much a fantasy as his claims he won.
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I thought this was a scheme to file a number of suits, get them dismissed, appeal to higher court, get them dismissed, so they could go to SC where the Manchurian Justices would do the deed (I think this is the same legal strategy Right to Lifers use). But I have not seen any appeals. I thnk there are currently some 67 suits filed and none of them have any evidence of actual fraud. They contain complaints ... someone called me a "Karen".
He is still saying fraud, but at this point he is running out of lawsuits and time. He may be forced to do something crazy.
ignorance is the enemy without equality there is no liberty America can survive bad policy, but not destruction of our Democratic institutions
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Its SO unfair! When he was running all of his advisors told him, honestly, that he was the beloved of the United States of America. EVERYBODY, all Americans, voted for him. He had absolutely nothing to worry about! Now, however, the evil Dems have stolen the race, through corruption, Soviet and Chinese interference, and sneaky ballot counters. SHAME! and, now, when our Dear Leader expresses his unbelief at what the numbers say, he has only one single choice, fight for the rights of those that voted, especially those that voted for Trump, to make absolutely sure that all their ballots are actually counted. Already, we have been told, there have been ballots found in garbage bags, along the highways, hidden in secret post office holding places, etc. Its just terrible.
Oh, facts? Well, maybe not, but only because the enemies of Trump world are very clever and very deep into the dark recesses of the children eating covens of America! SHAME!
I just thought this was necessary to be express this right out loud so that unbelievers are treated, finally, to almost the facts and surely the truth as its known by the True Believers in their pocket reality.
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Reading the "news" there seems to be a largely unconsidered assumption on the Trumper side that Trump's right to have questionable election issues examined by the courts ad infinitum deploribus, and that he shall magically remain the President until all the dust and smoke have cleared, via injunctivitis, or some similar legal argle bargle.
What they don't acknowledge is the fact that Trump's tenure will undeniably cease on Jan. 20th and there is no way in Hell that he will be sworn in for a second term if he still has less than 270 electoral votes come noon.
You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete. R. Buckminster Fuller
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Trump's tenure will undeniably cease on Jan. 20th While it looks like that is valid, based on current vote counts, we will know for a fact after the Joint Session of Congress finishes counting the votes of the electoral college. Once the tally has ended, I don;t think there is any legal wiggle room left for Teflon Man to slip through any loopholes. Then it will be .... You're fired! .... Hit the road Mr Don ... and don't let the door hit you in the butt on your way out
ignorance is the enemy without equality there is no liberty America can survive bad policy, but not destruction of our Democratic institutions
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Show of hands.. Who here’s a Russiagater?
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A Russiagater? What's that? Is the weirdo who got his sentence commuted working with Russia to support Trump again?
You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete. R. Buckminster Fuller
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