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Of course they should be tabled. Most were passed by the house with no bi-partisan support and were written to appeal to democrats and the democratic agenda. Vanity bills the House knew would never see the light of day. If Democrats want McConnell to take their bills seriously they need to be able to get some Republicans on board...even if that means making compromises.


I agree, but has it ever been that way? Government has been so f*cked up for so long that I've lost track of when things might have ever been better. The rest of the world is leaving us behind as we become more backward.

How long will it be before the American Diaspora begins and Americans begin flooding into other countries to escape the economic hardships forced on them by corporate greed and ineffective government? Why should anyone stay here when other countries have so much to offer?

Living wages

Socialized healthcare

Free college education.

You can get those things and more almost anyplace in the world.

Here again, who determines vanity bills? You had the same the last two years with all most all of bills passed by the Democratic House passed on party line votes. What's the difference? Republican party line votes with almost no Democrats between 2011-2014 or Democratic party line votes with almost no Republican support between 2019-2020?

As for fleeing America, I see the ever rising national debt weakening the dollar so much that in the near future we'll have another great depression. 574 billion dollars went to pay the interest on the national debt in 2019. Total revenue 3.4 trillion. Money that must be paid prior to paying for any government programs. Money spent so far for 2020 6.55 trillion or almost double the amount of money the federal government took in.

I think the Democrats should care and find out why they lost seats in the house this year. I don't see them doing that as of yet. All the Republicans need to do to take control of the house in 2022 is have a net gain of 6 seats, perhaps only 5 depending on the outcome of NY 22. Very easily done.

In the senate the Republicans have 20 seats up for reelection vs. 13 for the Democrats. It is very possible, perhaps even likely that the Republicans will gain control of the house in 2022 while the Democrats gain control of the senate. A total reversal of where things stand today.

This is my prediction for 2022. A flip of control for both the House and the Senate. As long as the Democrats won't search for the reason Biden was able to carry independents 54-41, by 13 points but Democratic congressional candidates winning independents by 50-48, just 2 points, then make adjustments, they're bound to lose the house. But that's the democrats problem.

History has shown that when a new president is elected, his party always goes too far in pushing their own agenda only to have huge losses in the first midterm in the house. This happened to Obama in 2010, 63 seat loss. To Bill Clinton in 1994, 54 seat loss, to Reagan in 1982, a 26 seat loss and on back. G.H.W. Bush lost only 8 seats in 1990, but he was popular for desert storm and his son, G.W. Bush actually gained 8 seats, due to the unifying effect of 9-11. G.W. Bush would go on to lose 33 seats in 2006 giving the democrats control of both chambers of congress.

Bottom line, to avoid losing the House in 2022, the Democrats need to figure out how far is too far and never cross that line or 2022 and perhaps 2024 will be Republican years.

It was my understanding that those Dems, who lost their seats, were a bit far to the left and those in the middle are not real enthused by them. Since those on the left are always claiming victory for their cause I am not sure that is true or not. I am talking about stuff like "defund the police", etc.

The Democrats, not unlike the Republicans, tend to talk to each other A LOT! (a serious sin in politics)

The greatest epiphany I have had is Republicans (this mostly applies to Republicans and less so to Democrats .... unless you can present some evidence otherwise) are ok with Democrats as long as they agree with the Republican agenda.

When Gingrich started the burning down the House full frontal assault on Democrats. Think about Bannon and his deconstruction campaign. I get a kick out of talking heads proclaiming PE Biden can compromise with Republicans. They are delusional. Even former moderate Republicans have become hesitant to compromise. Never give an inch!!!!

So what you're saying is my lead-in epiphany. If Democrats become Republicans, then all is well. If Democrats did not try to ensure people do have equal rights or Republicans try to destroy the very government in which they serve, then we would remain in 1791. I guess for some, who are incapable, or do not want to adapt, that would be ok ... In am on the other side of this .... "Don't stand in the doorway
Don't block up the hall" ... "the battle outside is ragin"

The world is changing far too fast and is far too dangerous for these clowns not to be addressing all of the inherent problems

House conservatives urge Trump not to concede and press for floor fight over election loss

I'm really tiring of these Repbuplican aholes.

I'm not sure of the political ideology of being far left for those Dems who lost as I haven't read anything to deal with that. Now there were two pro life Democratic incumbents who lost in their primaries to pro choice Democratic challengers, which lost in the general. Apparently those Democrats were willing to give those two seats to Republicans to get rid of two pro life Democrats.

You guys can say all you want about the Democrats being all inclusive and not having litmus tests, I just don't see it.

I find it hilarious when a Rightwinger opines about what Dems ought to be doing.

Pero...AOC and her squad all won re-election.

It was centrist Dems who lost...

But that's neither here nor there...Democrats will most likely lose everything again in 2022 and 2024. Trump has sworn to return in 2024 to take up where he left off.

If he ever leaves at all. It looks like a full blown coup is underway. Congressional Republicans are siding with Trump and ready to throw out the election and appoint Trump President for life.

Republicans no longer believe elections are even necessary.

But the left is too radical for the voters...?

Who said that? The Democratic Party is run by a bunch of world class pricks who twitch to the marionette strings of the rich. Centrists only are allowed at the table.

Democratic voters on the other hand are pretty diverse.