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well actually ... my take on conservatives in general is they only support and condone selective parts of the Constitution i.e. J Scalia, who essentially crossed out the opening phrase of the 2nd amendment i.e. a well regulated militia is irrelevant to his understanding on the Constitution. Thus we should conclude the Trump supporters who were essentially calling for the overthrowing of a duly elected government, had thrown out large chunks of the Constitution, and if you should ask any of them if they support and will uphold the Constitution, they would immediately say they are true patriots etc etc.
yeah I don't understand the way they think either ... anti-rational ... or maybe rational irrationality
ignorance is the enemy without equality there is no liberty America can survive bad policy, but not destruction of our Democratic institutions
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It appears there will be a 2-pronged attack on democracy by Mr Trump and his rabid supporters.
1. Texas AG (currently under a cloud of impropriety and legal problems) will lead other states to file their own suits to overturn rightfully cast votes in several battleground states.
2. The fight will end on the floor of the House. Frothing at the mouth rabid Trump supporters in the House, led by Rep Mo Brooks, will carry on the fight with objections to all battleground states votes Mr Trump lost. Each will require a 2 hour battle and an ensuing vote. Nothing but political ugly and hopefully it will be televised.
Of course, and I confute the talking heads who continue to claim the embarrassment of Republicans will impact their ability to get votes in future elections, none of it will persuade any of the cultist Trump supporters PE Biden won the election. Biden will be forever branded by Mr Trump and his supporters as the illegitimate president who stole an election from the rightful president, greatest human to have ever lived, savior of America, son of God, etc etc.
ignorance is the enemy without equality there is no liberty America can survive bad policy, but not destruction of our Democratic institutions
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I don't think anything will move the Trump True Believers until they become convinced that they are supporting a loser and I can't think of ANYBODY who is more worthy of that title than Trump. The problem is that its kindofa secret. Everybody knows about some of his failures but nobody talks about all of those that are known about from his handling of the 450 billion dollar present (result was bankruptcy) from daddy and onward.
Once everybody understands just how much of a loser Trump is I suspect at least some of those currently bamboozled might change their minds.
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at least some of those currently bamboozled might change their minds well ... no Mr Trump finally exposed the Republican base, for what many folks have known, as a largely a group of people malignantly infected by bigotry. It's in the open now. Why would these folks forget about Mr Trump? They wouldn't. He is their voice ... and they see him as the savior of everything they think is sacred ... including their bigotry. For this reason, Trumpism will remain a force for which all Republican will have to contend and fear. Should any of them say anything contrary to the tenets of Trumpism, they will incur the wrath of THE BASE. Hopefully time and education will be the cure.
ignorance is the enemy without equality there is no liberty America can survive bad policy, but not destruction of our Democratic institutions
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Hopefully time and education will be the cure. We have had literally millions of years to educate our young to take the best course of action for ourselves, our families, our communities, and our world. In the past we have always had time on our side. Any number of mistakes could be corrected and we could learn from them and move on. That's not the case anymore. We are in an extinction event and our species is in no way immune...in fact...it was our species which set the extinction event in motion with our incredibly unhealthy fascination with fire.
Good coffee, good weed, and time on my hands...
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The latest Trump ploy is to present "alternate electors" to congress when the votes are counted. Two problems with that idea:
1) There is a law that congress has to recognize the electors from states in which all disputes were resolved on December 6th. Only Wisconsin had any issues outstanding, resolved on Monday before the Electoral College count.
2) The only states which would possibly send an "alternate elector" count to congress are deep red states that Trump won.
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Turns out there was voter fraud in Pennsylvania! A Republican guy registered his dead mother online, and then voted by mail on her ballot for Donald Trump. Dead Mother Votes He's under indictment now. He's the third case. The other two cases from Forbes: Bartman’s arraignment follows a Republican man in Forty Fort, Pennsylvania, who was charged in October for similarly filling out an absentee ballot application on behalf of his deceased mother.
A registered Republican in Chester County, Pennsylvania, was also charged for casting a ballot in person in the November election, and then returning to his polling place with sunglasses on in an attempt to disguise himself and vote on behalf of his son.
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This why Republicans are able to truthfully say “there was election fraud”. They know there was because they engaged in it.
How eager they are to be slaves - Tiberius Caesar
Coulda tripped out easy, but I've changed my ways - Donovan
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