Capitol Hill Blue Forums Political Issues The Trump Administration Post-Election Mischief

Possibly the end of the United States democracy in favor of an insane leader...? I'm game! Let's do it!

and rightfully so

Think about this (and I hope it makes you as uneasy and uncomfortable as it does me), the polarization is so diametrical that in an election which has been counted, recounted, audited, and re-audited, then certified by every state, can, if there is but a small change of party affiliation in one house of Congress, actually overturn that election if anyone objects to the slate of electors from any of the states which Mr Trump lost. We, most likely will escape that result only because one house is controlled by the opposition party.

Now the kicker ... what this means is any political party in the future can now claim an election has been stolen and if the right political stars are aligned in Congress, that party can overturn the election.

and that is what should make each and everyone of us frightened of the possibility of political tyranny imposed by any party in power.

Now bow your head and pray to the great and almighty Mr trump savior of our democracy

There are actually all sorts of legal reasons why all Trump's coup nonsense is not going to happen. First of all, 49 states and DC certified their elections by December 8, the "safe harbor deadline". Congress is obligated by federal law to accept those elector slates. States can't "decertify" and substitute slates. Then the electors got together physically or online in each state on December 14th to record their votes. Then by December 23rd, all state certificates were received by the appropriate officials in DC.

The next step is January 6th, when Congress meets to count the electoral votes according to the state certificates. If a member of each house objects, they debate for a while, and then both houses vote on rejecting those state's certificates. If they both have simple majorities in favor of rejecting a state's certificate, then the coup could continue. But they won't. The votes are by individual members, and Democrats hold the House. But I'm pretty sure the Senate will vote to accept them as well. So all the state certificates will be accepted.

Then on January 20th, Biden becomes President, and Trump is arrested. On January 21st, all the congressional coup supporters are arrested and charged with treason. Nope, just kidding! That's what Trump would do. but not Democrats.

Did Trump actually jail any of his political rivals over the last four years....?

Did Democrats actually jail any of their political rivals over the last four years...?

No, he didn't, and yes, they did.

Which political enemies did Democrats imprison over the last four years?

It's not about the law or the facts.

It is about a propaganda campaign which has convinced 50M people an election was stolen. The law ... the facts ... rational thinking are out the window. We have states which have been intimidated into doing additional audits, under the guise of fraud. This is not about a simple recount because it was close, but because a narcissist is incapable of accepting defeat and his ability to manipulate people into believing his delusion.

We have congressmen incapable of understanding the simple truth. No one has produced the names of over 500k fraudulent votes. The argument is simple ... there is no way Mr Trump could have lost because he is the greatest president ever, he is the savior etc etc. The only "evidence" anyone has produced is statistical "anomolies" which they believe is "proof" of fraudulent voting.

We now have a congressman with the intelligence of a snail, filing a suit which claims VP Pence can make his own decision of on which electors are legal. Are these people sane or rational????

What is more important is we have now entered the domain of banana republics. When an election does not go your way ... overthrow the duly elected government.

That there are very few people concerned has me more than concerned .... I am disturbed. Just think ... if there was a more compliant Senator and a few more votes in the House, we may very well be seeing ... in real time ... the birth of a dictatorship. If you think it couldn't happen in America ... you may very well be deluding yourself.

We are one shout away.

I am a encouraged by the fact that so many Red State governors and Republican-appointed judges have said "NO" to Trump's coup attempt. Yes, it's shocking that so many in congress are willing to destroy their political futures to go along with him. But he won't get a majority in either house of congress for his nonsense.

Sure, if a majority in both houses and enough governors and state legislators and judges all were willing to toss democracy out with the trash, then Trump could install himself as dictator. But a giant meteor could hit the Earth and kill all higher life forms too. That's actually happened before, unlike America becoming a dictatorship!

Literally thousands of things would have to be different for this coup to succeed, so I think it's rather silly to get worked up about that. It was way more likely that Trump could have done a little less self-sabotage and won reelection by getting more votes than Biden.

Well, to be fair, the CSA quickly devolved into a military dictatorship run from the seat of Jefferson Davis’ pants spiced up by any number of field commanders who did whatever they wanted (no matter how bad for the “overall plan”) mixed in with many who did whatever Davis told them (no matter how bad for the survival of the fighting force).

The Davis administration’s haphazard, chaotic, contradictory and inept performance - informed by heavy dollops of magical thinking - is very reminiscent of the current administration in o, so many ways.

Flynn, Manafort, Cohen, Stone, et al. The calls here for the arrest of President Trump were unceasing for his entire term. Hopes still run high that he and his family will be locked up in the near future.

interesting political comparison