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Pooh-Bah
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Well said, Irkel my friend.
Scale and relativity are impossible to ignore in an imperfect world.
You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete. R. Buckminster Fuller
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I think you are absolutely right on this one. Trump, for instance, has never made a dime on his golf courses and is trying to sell his interest in that hotel he leases from the gov. He had a huge amount in his initial 2020 campaign but that was stolen by family and friends (I think there are several investigations into that one).
Basically Trump is an economic disaster. There is no evidence he has a dime to his name and all public information is just more and more notifications of Trump failures. He has duly helped all his friends. I wonder if his friends are going to help him out or if they have already and not likely to spend any more. We all know Trump is leaving a mess for Biden to deal with. He is also leaving an incredible mess for Trump to deal with too! He is, basically, your genuine American Failure that works hard at being just that. As far as I can tell he fails at marriage, his kids are dependent failures, his businesses are a joke and. as far as I can tell, the greatest deal maker the world has ever seen has yet to make a single deal.
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Pooh-Bah
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That's what all this BS is about: Keeping the con going to squeeze the maximum amount of money out of the marks. He's on the rail, coated in tar and feathers, still asking for money.
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Similar to the ‘Ditch Mitch’ con. Democrats running wall to wall ads to flip the senate without ever giving a reason what that would accomplish other than ‘flipping that senate’.
No policy proposals, no public goods. Just getting a majority for majorities sake. An empty campaign harvesting millions while offering nothing but consumer brand celebration.
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I’m sorry for those who see no difference between the current manifestations of America’s political parties.
Are there similarities? Sure. Does that make them equivalent? I don’t think so. Or maybe I should consider tigers and house cats as the same? Or a murderer and a shoplifter?
Republicans have spent the last 50 years persecuting and prosecuting Democrats for non-existent crimes. Which, of course, is just the same as prosecuting Republicans for actual crimes.
Democrats fight for more access to health care, higher minimum wages, stronger unions, more spending on infrastructure and education, better universal voting. Republicans fight tooth and nail against all of those things. But the parties are so alike no one can tell the difference. I couldn't agree more.
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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I don't think we should sugarcoat or equivocate about what is going on with this contingent of the Republican Party. This is fascism at play, here, without hyperbole. That is fundamentally different than anything Democrats have ever done (including, historically, the Civil War). Fascism is "a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition 2: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control". That is, literally, what is going on here. It's a minority of the minority trying to maintain/seize power, just like Hitler did in Germany.
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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He is, and he is getting the bucks. The question is what is going to happen to it. He has surrounded himself with utter greed. His children - greed, those he appoints - greed. Those he hires to manage the money - serious greed. The part about it all is that he actually seems to be happy with his efforts being ripped off.
There are a lot of people trying to justify and legitimize what he does. What's almost interesting is that, at the same time, they are providing themselves with fancy cars, living space, etc. Trump is, basically, a poster child for greed.
All that being said there remain those determined to 'help' him by giving him money AND support. They all mind, they all don't wear masks, and they all believe every word that comes out of the Trump Trumpet. I don't think they will remain, however, once they have no more money they are useless to the man. OH, and on their way through life they are likely to also be victims of Covid-19 (which they will continue to deny whilst they are actually dying from it!) I fully expect he will gather others. The current Qanon folk, for instance, seem like good targets. They believe in bullsh*t, to a doting extent, just for starters. A better bunch of determined victims is hard to even imagine!
Amazing!
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I see Trump was recorded on a call asking SecState of Georgia Brad Raffensperger to "find" enough Trump votes to overturn the Georgia election. That would be a felony in Georgia, so Raffensperger wisely refused. But it's also a felony in Georgia to ask an official to do that. Same penalty, even.
So if Georgia ever decides to follow the rule of law, Trump has another felony charge against him. There are actually quite a few people who have violated this law. It will be interesting to see if there is any effort to enforce it.
I suspect the Republican Party has self-destructed for a decade or two. Trumpists will win primaries, but lose elections for quite a few years until they come to their senses and realize Americans don't want fascism. I predict loss of future general elections for most of the Senators and Reps voting to overturn the election on Wednesday. They are just too short-sighted to see that.
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Carpal Tunnel
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Carpal Tunnel
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So I've visited three topics and in each one of them there is a call to arrest Trump. This place is looking more and more like a Trump rally
"Lock Him Up! Lock Him Up!
I just talked to a Trumper friend and he's certain that on January 6 Joe Biden and his cheating cohorts will all be arrested!
Good coffee, good weed, and time on my hands...
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I’m sorry for those who see no difference between the current manifestations of America’s political parties. And I'm sorry for those who think Democrats are going to do anything. Because they aren't. They kowtow to our corporate overlords just like the other centrist party. Yes, they pretend they are going to deliver better healthcare and higher wages and a 10% discount on you student loan. But in the end none of it will happen...it's just talk.
Good coffee, good weed, and time on my hands...
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