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Trump supporters are preparing the election to be handed to the true winner, Mr Trump.

Talking heads keep saying Mr Trump knows he lost, but I disagree. If he actually thought he had lost, we would have found him whimpering in some dark corner, his delusions had been shattered and he had disassociated. I am convinced he actually believes he won, and the evil empire is trying to steal his election win from him.

Some 150 Republicans in Congress are the powder keg, willing to blow themselves up for a narcissistic faux dictator. The talking heads continue to lament the fate of Republicans but I believe this will not affect their standing nor change their power.

I believe we will be witnesses to the first tectonic political change in the demise of our Democracy. I send condolences to my fellow American patriots as we watch the end of democracy.


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I think this does mark a tectonic political change, but that change will be the end of the Republican Party in presidential races for a couple of decades at least. The Party will split into Fascists and Republicans. The Fascists will win Republican primaries, but then lose the general election. As long as Democrats don't go hog-wild with a Socialist candidate, the Democrats and Independents will vote to defeat the crazy Fascist.

When enough young people who don't remember Trump and his mishandling of pretty much everything become voters, then maybe the Republicans will be back.

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the [ed death] of the Republican Party in presidential races for a couple of decades
To grossly paraphrase this famous quote ....
The reports of [ed the Republican Party's] death are greatly exaggerated

Yes everyone who is not a Republican has said it is the end of the Republican Party for several years now as Mr Trump obliterated all standards of propriety and leveled the monuments of our democratic institutions to their foundation. Now he is trying to turn those very bulwarks into rubble, but None of this matters to the base.

P likes to type about the numbers and how the independents will determine elections. I like to type my belief the American electorate is, for the most part, ignorant. Add the ingredient of some 75M people who voted for the most offensive person to have ever occupied the WH and the belief of some 50M of those that the election was rigged with rampant voter fraud perpetrated by Democrat Party cabal of baby eating satanists and we should conclude there is no lock on the proposition Democrats should win the general election for at least a decade or two.

The next election will be even more hotly contested and will be equally as close. The media likes to say stuff like yippee Georgia is flipped. I am looking at it like it is a one off at this time. Many if not most of the solid red states will remain red for decades. All it takes for another populist poseur to win is to kiss a few independents and Democrat/liberals fail to turn out to vote and voila .... we have another Trump. I would hope this would be the end of thus fascist nonsense, but I suspect (since I have been wrong many times on similar issues) it will take at least 2 or possibly 3 generations for these ideas to be relegated to the archives.

I predict no matter how much evidence is presented by investigators on the integrity of the election, Trump's Base will still not accept it as valid. I also predict none of the Senators and Congressmen who are objecting to the certified slates will correct the record.


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They have stormed the seat of democracy ... if there is anyone who still believes Mr Trump will not stoop to any effort to remain in power .... watch


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Well, today is when all the fun starts. Trump has called all the White Nationalists together today. When I left the TV they said that Trump was marching, with his supporters, on Congress. They said he has a right to go to congress and speak on the floor. I think this means that he will fill the bleachers with loud supporters and then give a 2 hour speech all about how everybody hates him, nobody likes him (except), and how hard he has worked to try and save America from itself.

When I left the TV they were broadcasting congress and I could see that would go on for hours and nothing would really happen except everybody gets to talk (ON TV!) Speculation is that they can probably keep going for several days. A veritable passel of liars and cheats selling themselves to those of the American public willing to listen.

I keep thinking, and hoping, that the American public would treat Trump just like they do any other TV show that is done and losing support. I still think that's gonna happen but I gotta give trump credit for understanding his supporters about as good as anybody with a TV show. I have also noticed that TV has reduced giving Trump as much exposure for free. Time will tell?

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It's already gotten interesting because one House member objected to seating a number of representatives because their state election was fraudulent. The House voted almost 100% that those members must be seated because their state elections were not fraudulent. Just about every House member is on record as saying all the state's elections were legitimate. So now if they claim a state's election was NOT legitimate, they have a problem. Would that be grounds for perjury under oath before congress?

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I just read this one:
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/06/bui...x-evacuated-amid-pro-trump-protests.html

Seems that while Trump was leading supporters to congress he abandoned them. They continued to march and so they shut down congress instead. The above link also has pictures of the supporters. As far as I can tell the supporters, at least some, were dressed in costumes as well!

More entertainment for us!

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On a chilly day here in Florida I am warming my hands over the fire as American democracy burns....


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I think the DC authorities were crazy not to have the National Guard surrounding the Capital with live ammo today. When the President of the US is inciting riots against Congress, Congress needs to impeach him immediately. Hopefully that will be their first order of business as soon as they clear out his goons and get back to their joint session.

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Welp, right-wingers have always insisted that “republic” and “democracy” are antonyms, but they’ve rarely been so .... vivid in their demonstration of the belief that “republic” and “authoritarian kleptocracy” are synonyms.



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