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And once again I say that no one is using that slogan.

If they were I'd agree completely with you.

It appears to me that the right wing propaganda machine is saying that Democrats are saying defund the police when, in fact, no one is saying it.

And then you see it on teevee because the media likes to stir up a ruckus.

Police departments are locally funded. Any police reform has to happen at the municipal level.

I love my local police! I want them fully funded.

I don't want them bullying citizens and I don't want them randomly shooting POCs. And I don't want them affiliated with far right anti government organizations.

Like the Republican Party.

Sorry, about every other time they show marchers there always seems to be a sign to "defund the police". Next time you see marchers on the tv look for it.

I agree with jgw on this. I can also remember seeing folks like AOC, Omar, Tlaib and some senators also coming out in favor of defunding the police.

The only Democrat I can remember seeing on TV coming out against was Manchin, he said that's not who we are as Democrats and we don't believe in defunding the police.

I've yet to see Biden, Pelosi, Schumer or any other Democratic Party leader come out and state they're not for defunding the police. This of course could be the very outspoken who get TV time because they very outspoken over riding the more quiet rebuttals But the perception among the voters is there, right, wrong or indifferent. Especially independents.

Let me remind you that I do not have a television and have not had one since 1998.

And just who the hell are these rioters carrying signs? Do they determine democratic policy? Do they wield any power beyond rioting in the streets and waving banners?

I expect there have been a lot more Trumpies waving confederate flags and Nazi flags. Does this mean the Republican Party wants to own slaves and kill Jews? Has McConnell come out and said they don't want to own slaves or kill Jews? I don't recall Trump ever coming out and saying that either...so I guess they do.

Have Biden supporters stormed the capital demanding that the police be defunded?

There is absolutely no movement within the Democratic Party or it's voting members to defund the police.

Oh...and Obama is going to take your guns too!

Even the most extreme social democrats and socialists in congress are not in favor of abolishing the police. They just want them to clean up there act. Like stop killing POC for ridiculous reasons, stop with all the mistaken no-knock warrants that kill innocent people, stop shooting at cars driving away when homes and schools are in their field of fire, stop killing mentally disturbed people when non-lethal means of control would do. stop stealing people's money and stuff when they have not been convicted of a crime that is connected to that money or stuff, stop killing or tazing kids, etc.

The list is so long it's easier to say "defund", but that's not what anybody wants.

PIA...you posted this in another thread but I think it fit's here too.

Defunding the police is just a made up scandal.

Made Up Scandals

Fine, easier to say just defund and it's defund that resonating out there. How about a simple Reform the police.

Now whether or not greger sees this on TV, others do. Folks see rioters with signs defund the police and they equate that, right, wrong or indifferent to the Democrats. Why, congressional democrats with loud mouths are always on TV shouting it. You can have 90% or 95% of Democrats against defunding, but when none speak up outside of Manchin which isn't listen to as he not a leader and gets very little air time, people will equate and draw their own conclusions, obtain their own perspectives base on what is observable and heard.

Made up scandal, perhaps. Even could be right wing propaganda. But the Democrats who are in charge, who would get huge press and tv coverage are staying silent on defunding the police.

All it would take is for Biden in one of his speeches or interviews to come right out and state, he's against defunding the police as are almost all democrats. So why hasn't he done this?

If he did, I'd wager 60% of America would believe him and this defund the police would go away.

Actually, Biden has always said he's against defunding the police every time it's come up. He's very well known for this. You must not be paying attention.