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"Let's make something very clear: Rape is a crime," Abbott said. "And Texas will work tirelessly to make sure that we eliminate all rapists from the streets of Texas by aggressively going out and arresting them and prosecuting them and getting them off the streets."
Oh really! You are going to "eliminate" all rape?"

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/08/politics/greg-abbott-rape-abortion/index.html

This makes my head want to explode.
She says it was rape, he says it was not and on and on and on.

And we just ignore all of the rapes until there are no more rapists???

No source, it's just that after living down there for thirteen years, I experienced the "Aunt Lydia" types up close and personal.
I can't think of anything more satisfying for them because there's no downside.
It's safer than killing like a Texas cheerleader mom, and you make ten grand for every "lil hussy" you turn in, and you get to say "That'll learn em" every time.

There's just a lot of angry bitter people, some of them are women, and they enjoy ratting out others for money.
Except now they may have to do more traveling and sleuthing South of the Border because El Cuerto Supreme de Mexico just voted unanimously to decrim all abortions
...curious timing, ya think?

Well, Loggy didn't we learn that "way" from our previous (pervert) ex pres? Ignore it. It doesn't exist.
Or it's all just a liberal "hoax"!

Jeffrey, what you’ve written about women being the chief Texas bounty hunters has no source, by your own admission. It’s hearsay. You say “There’s just a lot of angry, bitter people, some of whom are women.” Some of - sounds like you think the majority of these angry, bitter people are men.

I don’t intend to discuss this any further; it’s essentially an unfounded slur. You certainly welcome to your own opinion, as II am free to discount it.

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I think my post was true, but it also feels harsh. So I’m going to add a longish post here; it will take me a little time to write, Hang in there, please.
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Okay. What a woman will do, or not do, about a
pregnancy, may result from spite, as Jeffery said, but
I think it’s more likely to result from her own
experience.

Does she have too many children of her
own, have no children although she wanted them?
Was she adopted, or did she grow up in the foster system? Did she grow up in wealth or in poverty; was she abused? What conditions did her own mother live in? Even the strictest conservative woman will have had, I guarantee, at least one pregnancy scare. All these things (and more) can affect a woman’s view of pregnancy and there’s no way to predict what that effect will be.

Here’s another thing, and I hate to put it as bluntly as I’m going to. Women lie about pregnancy, most often in the first few months because we know we may miscarry early on. You may have heard stories about really large seven-month babies. My grandmother had one of those. Guys, lies happen, usually for safety or society’s sake.* What you think you know about a woman’s reaction to pregnancy may be the result of a lie she has carried for years.

Claiming to know how a woman will react to pregnancy, hers or someone else’s, is a chump’s game.


*before you start in on stories about women who lie
their way into pregnancy - let me remind you that in
order for this trap to work, the man has to know that
pregnancy was a possible result of his actions; ie, he failed to “keep it wrapped,” and pregnancy was at least possible. He was irresponsible, and if he got away with a dissolvable marriage instead of an unwanted kid, he should count himself lucky.

Not my intent to make it sound like I am slurring all women.
I'm just saying that during my thirteen years there, I met and even got to know more than a few who would easily fit the profile of an "Aunt Lydia" and would gladly go for the ten grand reward for ratting out their neighbors, that's all.

Are many of these people men? Absolutely.
I cannot imagine why any of that would offend you, you're a wonderful person with solid ethics as far as I can tell.

I just encountered pockets of people who fit Margaret Atwood's book, and Karen and I encountered some of this personally, at the hands of a fire and brimstone pastor and his ill-begotten flock, too.

If I sound a little bitter, believe me, none of it is directed at you.

I didn’t think i5 was a slam against me. But it certainly seemed a dismissal of mean-minded, mean-spirited women with no compassion whatsoever, and I know that’s not true. If it was, Texas wouldn’t’t need a “heartbeat” law.

I’ve jut edited my previous post, just above yours, to address some of the issues in ascribing actions to women for reasons you can’t possibly know.

I think there may have been some miscommunication.
Maybe I failed to make my idea clear.
I was talking about the part of the new Texas law that rewards strangers ten thousand bucks for "turning in women who get abortions".

Also, I was adding in a little bit of snark. This new Texas law has me more than a little irked.

To @Mellowicious/Julia:

I just want to make clear that I am mainly worried about what this idiotic new law will do TO all these women, and I am worried about how it will encourage the very worst set of behaviors for another class of women...and of course their male counterparts.
I have a daughter, so naturally the first thought in my head was:

"Imagine if we still lived in TX and my daughter NEEDED to terminate a pregnancy...never mind WANTED to, just NEEDS to...say perhaps as the result of rape, or because the poor fetus is shown to have profound quality of life issues that guarantee a life that consists of hours of agony and no hope for any kind of real life other than pain and suffering, or a pregnancy that threatens the life of my daughter."

I'd be pulling my hair out over this.
Thank God she lives in Portland OR now.