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Covid was first detected in the US in mid-January 2020 in Everette - a Seattle suburb. Then, a woman in the San Jose was diagnosed in mid-February 2020. You might have been the first LA person to be diagnosed.

Have any health officials talked to you Jeffrey of where/how you might have contracted COVID?


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Jeffery, I had heard of “Covid brain” before, but I had hoped it was a temporary effect - do you know for sure? On the other hand, my interpretation of brain damage is that it is partially or wholly permanent. But that’s only my own interpretation, which may have no validity at all.

Rick, if I remember correctly, I read a few months ago that some cases had been tentatively identified before the date you mention - not formally diagnosed but identified (somewhere.] If I could tell you where, I’d give you a link, and if I find it, I’ll bring it back.


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Here's an article of "Covid Brain Fog" from Harvard Health.

It's one of the "long haul" symptoms for those who were infected with COVID and recovered. Another "long haul" symptom is wrecked lungs. It is expected that COVID recoverers will be permanently disabled for life. Hmm


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This may be what I was thinking of in terms of timeline
https://www.reuters.com/business/he...e-first-reported-cases-study-2021-06-15/

Thanks for the other info. I did know most of it; it was the brain damage I didn’t know about (as a permanent effect.)


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And Jefferey, this was meant to be in an earlier post, but got lef5 out - I’m sorry you’ve been so ill.


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Originally Posted by pdx rick
Covid was first detected in the US in mid-January 2020 in Everette - a Seattle suburb. Then, a woman in the San Jose was diagnosed in mid-February 2020. You might have been the first LA person to be diagnosed.

Have any health officials talked to you Jeffrey of where/how you might have contracted COVID?

February 26th if I remember correctly.
They had one nurse at the ER entrance asking if I'd traveled to China in the last few weeks.
Nothing else, go on in, no masks, no nothing.
And I had HEARD ABOUT this virus but, me being as ill informed as anybody else back in Feb. 2020, I was sure it couldn't be the virus because of course I had not BEEN to China.

Right? How could I HAVE COVID if I hadn't been to China? That's all I knew other than the fact that I felt like I was breathing through a straw, one of those super small cocktail stirrer straws....like breathing through a pinhole.
I sat there in the waiting room wheezing, whooping, coughing and turning blue (according to the intake nurse) and I thought I just had a bad case of pneumonia.
I did not get confirmation of all of this until April when I was finally able to get tested, and that was when I finally had the STRENGTH to even go anywhere anyway.

Karen got sick, Daryl got sick, Brianne got sick, we all had it but by the time we figured out what it was, I was almost sure Daryl would die, not me. But I guess his youth helped...I really don't know what saved him other than the fact that both Bri and Daryl quarantined themselves and recovered after about two weeks. Karen had a "wet cough" and a very high fever but I guess if you have MS, your immune system reacts differently because remember, MS means your immune system is so strong that it attacks your own body...I guess.

But even Karen is seeing cognitive decline too. We just don't know if it's because of COVID, or MS, or a combination of the two.
We just don't know.

We did guess that it was Bri who brought it home because at the time she was a stylist in a VERY VERY swanky upscale men's salon, popular with the BMW, Ferrari, Rolls, Lambo crowd and she had a lot of wealthy asian "world traveler businessmen" type customers.

She's got the same job again up in Portland, by the way, another very snooty shi shi upscale men's styling salon.
But you have to show vaxx proof to book an appointment!


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Originally Posted by Mellowicious
Jeffery, I had heard of “Covid brain” before, but I had hoped it was a temporary effect - do you know for sure? On the other hand, my interpretation of brain damage is that it is partially or wholly permanent. But that’s only my own interpretation, which may have no validity at all.

Rick, if I remember correctly, I read a few months ago that some cases had been tentatively identified before the date you mention - not formally diagnosed but identified (somewhere.] If I could tell you where, I’d give you a link, and if I find it, I’ll bring it back.

All I know is, my memory is fried. I am catching myself repeating posts I made earlier in the same thread.
I hit POST REPLY and then I look up and see that I had posted the same damn thing the day before.
And I can't keep a coherent thought in my head long enough to finish something I am writing.

The other day I realized I must have left a nice Sennheiser shotgun mic and boom pole on a shoot somewhere....not cheap.
Somebody got a free boom pole, wind filter, Sennheiser shotgun and 30 foot XLR cable because I clearly forgot it.
I am forgetting essential equipment now, and that means I may forget to even BRING essential equipment TO a shoot.


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That’s nasty. I’m serious.You have my sympathy, and empathy as well. I have a number of similar issues, different level of difficulty and different source, and I’m constantly looking for workarounds, new habits, anything that will help me get past the connections I’ve lost.

Bes5 wishes to all of you.


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Jeff, try sleeping on your stomach if you can. Covid docs found that's all they had to do for a lot of patients instead of putting them on ventilators. It would have helped a lot when you were acute, but it might be useful to try now. It's criminal they let you go home without oxygen if your SpO2 was below 92. At the least they should have got you some home oxygen tanks or a concentrator. You probably survived because they gave you prednisone! I guess that was before WHO told docs to avoid steroids.

If Karen was on MS immunosuppressive drugs, I think that might have actually helped! Just a theory of mine, there is no published info on this idea. I was on Tecfidera until January 2020 when my doc told me to quit taking it because my lymphocytes were dangerously low. I got Covid in March with relatively mild symptoms for a 68 year old with MS. Nobody dies from the virus. All the serious symptoms are from immune system over-reaction. So I think my CD4 helper T-cells were seriously low, since they stayed that way for about a year. But apparently my CD8 Natural Killer T-cells were okay, since I got over the infection. CD4s are the T-cells that tell B-cells to make antibodies, but with unimmunized people their CD8 Natural Killer cells mop up the infection long before any antibodies are created. So my hypothesis is that selectively knocking out your CD4s might prevent those symptoms.

But please, nobody should try this at home! It's just a thought experiment.


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Originally Posted by pondering_it_all
Jeff, try sleeping on your stomach if you can.

Can't....and how I wish I could.
My nose is a largely useless protuberance which is supposed to take in air but if I try sleeping on my stomach it closes up.
I don't have sleep apnea, I have nose apnea, the result of injuries sustained from a car accident at age seven, an eight year love affair with the Bolivian marching powder (said affair ended twenty-six years ago) and just a few instances of being in the wrong place at the wrong time and running my yapper instead of walking away.

If I could force my nose to stay open, sleeping on my stomach would be my default anyway, because it just feels better to me.


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