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No, Ken, what we have here is communication that is all too clear - a disdain for humankind, ifor both sexes, though not equally.

I expect there to be a ot of “but but that’s not what meant” as though writers here can’t write any more clearly than that.

Burdens on you boys! But I would suspect you have a difficult task here.

And there you have it. I see us as little more than animals. Gimmers of intelligence now and then. We are, after all, very clever animals.

I dunno how you parse out what happened between the two but somebody was violent and had an explosive temper. Maybe both of them. She's dead, he's guilty and probably should be dead.

Man's inhumanity to man is a very well-documented problem with humankind, man's inhumanity to women and children is even worse. Despite an early fondness for art.

But it doesn’t make men beasts whose lack of control makes women responsible for their own murders.

But it doesn’t make men beasts whose lack of control makes women responsible for their own murders.

Stop it Greger. We're not talking about the bigger broader issue Right Now. We're talking about Gabby Petito's situation.

I'm going to step right over PIA's contention that we like to cover/care about pretty white girls because "we want to do them" and are disappointed and we wish we had had our opportunity (ugh)..
I agree with the inequality of white girl coverage over black and brown girls but that's a conversation for a different time. (and one I'm passionate about).

Give this girl her time. She was still a victim none the less.

Some men are...some women are. There are only three people in this world that I genuinely give a rat's ass about. My daughters and my ex. My faith worships a goddess and is largely matriarchal. I consider myself a feminist and I consider all men to be dangerous. Even the most enlightened among us are still stupid on far too many occasions for it to be labeled coincidence.

It is in our nature. Just like dogs. We are gentle, lazy and loving when we're fed and cared for, but the wrong signal can set us off...Women aren't that much different from men but overall, I believe they are the superior of the binary division.

But then there's Marjorie Taylor Greene...and Sydney Powell...

At any rate, please forgive me if I've been stupid. It's been a theme throughout my life.

But what about the sexual urge that we heterosexual men simply cannot shake? I am seventy years old and I wish I still were not still so horny for women. But I am. I’m thinking if that desire would simply let go I would experience some sort of freedom.

But perhaps that freedom would simply be…death?

All humans can be dangerous when they or their children are threatened. Most humans are not violent under normal. circumstances.

You consider all men to be dangerous but you give no facts to support your belief - so it’s just a belief.

Sorry, Greger, I call “personal opinion” on this and, frankly, on this topic I rank mine more accurate than yours. As I believe I’ve heard you say,about religion, “believe what you want, just don’t expect me to join you.”

Yes, she was a victim and I hope the assh*le who killed her dies sooner than later.

I'm just curious about what flipped his switch.