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No one thinks this vow of celibacy nonsense has anything to do with it? Priests and nuns who agree to such are probably going to be problematic to begin with.


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Nah. Sending them some place so that they can be of "use" and "help" other people sounds like too much temptations to me.

How about treat um like the Scarlet Woman and stone them to death.
Just sayin...



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Originally Posted by Ken Condon
No one thinks this vow of celibacy nonsense has anything to do with it? Priests and nuns who agree to such are probably going to be problematic to begin with.
Here here, Ken. I couldn't agree with you more. What's that have to do with anything?
Everybody has god given "urges" , right? (sarcasm).

Same with telling youngsters fresh from puberty that the only thing for them is abstinence. Cripe.



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I suspect that we are observing the end of the Roman Catholic Church. I came to that conclusion when they announced that the pope was giving some known offenders back their jobs because he is out of priests. He is out of priests because they have decided, in the face of all their competition, to disallow married or female priests. Oh, there are exceptions - preachers from other religions who convert can bring their wives and children with them.

Its kindofa shame and they will diddle around for a long time but, eventually, they will have to start selling stuff off which will really signal the end.

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Originally Posted by olyve
How about treat um like the Scarlet Woman and stone them to death.
Just sayin...


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So, this crowd appears to be totally in favor of the death penalty, vigilante justice, and outright torture for something that surely must be classified as a mental disorder.

I've noticed that Republicans have also come down pretty hard on pedophiles in recent years. It's good to see the two sides agreeing on something! The torture and killing of anyone who happens to cross a certain line. A line that has moved around quite a bit over the years and isn't universally accepted. Once those folks are gone we'll find another line and torture and kill all of those who cross that one...and then...

My dog isn't neutered. He was never aggressive and never needed to be. I think proper sex education might go a long way towards reducing a lot of sex crimes. And part of that education would be the sure and certain knowledge that your balls would be removed after three offenses.


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Greger, you may be right; flaying - although not to death, min you - may be too harsh. And it may not be best for the guilty priests, but for the hierarchy to which they report.

Mental illness or not, I can guarantee those guilty priests knew that what they were doing was wrong - after all, these are men trained to recognize “sin,” to confess it, and to refrain from sinning again. They are steeped in it. And I can guarantee that these crimes were not committed in complete secrecy. Someone knew - a. monsignor, a bishop, an archbishop - someone knew and someone hid their crimes.

I don’t like priests, which can be difficult because my nephew is one. I don’t see him very often, and when I do, it’s a gingery meeting. He knows I’m an atheists, and I refuse to call him “father.” Still, I try to be happy that he followed his childhood dream - even though it was to become a priest. The church breeds a patronizing attitude into most of its priests and I despise that. I’ve had great experience with nuns, mostly as professors.Priests? No. Priests don’t take the same vows nuns do; I think they’d be better off if they did.


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Originally Posted by Mellowicious
…I refuse to call him “father.”
“Forgive me nephew, for I have sinned…” It has a fulsome mouth to it, and is phonetically softer.

I like it!


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And I am long past asking the Catholic Church, or any of its representatives, to forgive me for anything, thank you very much.


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Not even satirically?


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