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I've always heard about Catholic school, "There's Nun better!"
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re: Van Halen's Hot For TeacherThere are two early 80s song that come to mind: The Police Don't Stand Too Close whose lyrics about a young teacher having a crush on his student wasn't exactly boycotted and shunned the world over as evident by the success of its worldwide chart rankings at the time: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/image...aa5a5ebb033a892fcc9516b8d79a9e2d6c07.png ...and then there's Oingo Boingo's I like Little Girls released in 1981 on A&M Records (Herb Albert's label) never charted anywhere in the world, but was released for airplay. I heard it on KROQ in Los Angeles many, many times.
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Kind of back to topic... Is this male/underage female, female/underage male, male/underage male, female/underage female ethical taboo asymmetry cultural, or biological? 
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While we're at it, how does the apparent difference in the effect of a man raping a woman/girl compare to the effect of a woman raping a man/boy?
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From a cultural standpoint, if we look at the chart successor a record of a young teacher fighting feelings for his underaged female student vs the global outrage of a priest molesting a young boy, the thought of older male / young girl does not invoke nearly the same outrage as an older male / young boy does. 
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My own various takes are these:
I have always been horrified at the though of a man raping a woman - if that's cultural, it is persistent.
I used to be horrified by gay sex in either direction, but no more - cultural.
I really can't envision a woman raping a man (or boy), so I guess that's not cultural?
The idea of anybody forcing sex on someone who is not willing is abhorrent. All I know is that my equipment would not be functional in such a scenario.
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...... the thought of older male / young girl does not invoke nearly the same outrage as an older male / young boy does. Not true for me. They seem the same.
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The idea of anybody forcing sex on someone who is not willing is abhorrent..  What if it is mutual between the teen and adult? Greger says that teens can't give permission. I disagree. 
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What if it is mutual between the teen and adult? Greger says that teens can't give permission. I disagree. Me too. I was in the process of being sexually "molested" once by a 12 or 13 year-old girl while I was nearly passed out at a wedding reception party (the bride was her auntie and the father of the bride, her grandfather, coerced me into sharing a bit too much Fish House Punch against my wishes). In my semi-dream state I thought I was getting it on with her mother, but fortunately the bride pulled her niece off of me a bit prior to the nick of time. Being before cell phones, auntie, at whose Montana ranch I was the handyman (I think there are songs about that) screened all calls for me from her horny niece (back in California) for several weeks. I assume the little rapist found a new mark.
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