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I hope you're right. It's way past time for these old farts to move on and let fresh young faces come to the fore. Perhaps our political leaders are a bunch of has been's who just don't know it yet.

There's young talent out there on both sides of the aisle. Way past time to bring them up to the majors instead of languishing in the minors.

Burn the infrastructure bill down, I say.
Propping up fossil fuel infrastructure while privatizing more public goods and services is right out of the Dem play book of copper stripping the house they inherited. ‘Asset recycling’ is what they’re calling it IIRC.
This generation of greed heads and pumps that control both parties have only known savaging the US labor force, using the government as buyer of last resort and asset stripping public goods/services.
Reserve throws 8 trillion into equity market in one year, no problem.
Spending less than a trillion on needs like dentures for old folks, sane prescription drugs prices.. let’s not get carried away. Let’s think of what’s possible.
I’ll never understand why some people insist on pushing Wall Street propoganda.
Maybe has something to do with the monthly statements they get in the mail.

Good to see ya again Chunks! I wish we could fast forward ten years because that's about as soon as we're gonna see much forward movement.

Art of the possible...ya know?

10 years? Seems overly optimistic, politically speaking.
Naw. We have far right and right wing political parties dominating the politics at the national level so I would bet on things continuing on their way of getting worse.
I do have money on the jackpot happening within that time frame, though, due to events beyond electoral politics.
Mother Nature is just clearing her throat and hasn’t begun to scream at us…yet.
I notice the boats stacking up at the ports with cascading failure points of a complex supply chain continuing to spread.

Politics, though, has been rendered little more than a form of passive entertainment with the exception that one party takes winning seriously whereas the other party doesn’t. Its all about intentions for them. A reenforcing of their ‘goodness’.

When we fall below our national strategic level of drive thru windows and the global supply chain fails to deliver, things will get weird real quick in the suburbs, IMO.

I know. But I've only got about 10 years left to observe the political goings-on before I shuffle off this mortal coil.

That will be plenty of time to see the beginnings of change. It's visible even now, but you have to look closely. It's simply a matter of sustainability, life at this pace is simply unsustainable and the people will eventually revolt...The Great Resignation is indicative of this.

Simple Marxist theory. Only patience is lacking. I'd hoped to see more and better in my lifetime, but now that I'm here near its end I'm satisfied that better times will come whether I'm here to see them or not.

Or else everyone will die and that will be the end of it. I'm okay either way I guess.

I suspect that Biden thinks he is still in the senate - he isn't. Its strange, I think he knows it but habits die hard. Eventually (hopefully) he will actually start behaving like the president and not the senator.

Between that and the unfortunate behavior of the Dems they either gotta start behaving that they are all in the same boat, start, at least, working on a message, and getting over their personal wishes.

If they don't do that they are going to get a really serious education next year. Its really a shame, they should have passed the infrastructure thing and went to work putting themselves together to actually win an election.

Instead ................

Life on Earth will survive, either way. Even if we set off all the nukes and created a nuclear winter, some life would prevail. Not us, though. Maybe for the better.

This whole dilemma boils down to numbers for me. Fact is you're always going to have a few who won't go along with whatever agenda or legislation from either party. 34 Democrats in the house voted against the ACA back in 2010. No big deal since the Democrats had 256 Democratic house members. The democrats knew they had the votes prior to the vote taking place. Most of those 34 were actually given permission if that's the right word, I don't think so. Perhaps being told it was okay by the democratic leadership to do so.

My point is 222 is a long way from 256 as is 50 in the senate from 60 when the ACA passed the senate later to dwindle to 59 on Scott Brown's win replacing Ted Kennedy.

Which brings me back to politics being the art of the possible. Any political realist who lives in the world of reality knows the infrastructure bill should be a done deal. Place the blame on whoever, but the fact is it isn't a done deal. The 3.5 trillion bill was dead before it was proposed. My advise, take the 1.5 trillion and move on. Take what is possible and work on what isn't possible next year. Perhaps a new bill.

What is possible boils down to numbers. It's really quite simple. I think with last Tuesday's results, some of these moderate democrats from swing districts may look at self preservation as being priority number one and now vote nay on the 1.5 trillion package even if Manchin and Sinema approve it. Time will tell.

What's the difference, nuclear war and nuclear winter, Yellowstone, Long Valley, Valles, Lake Toba, Taupo, or some other super volcano erupting, astroid or comet hitting the earth, Human life will probable go extinct. Although other life will survive.

It is my opinion Democrats haven't looked at the 2020 election as a whole or at all the offices on the ballot. Just took the presidential as a mandate for their major legislation initiatives Taking the 2020 election as a whole, the whole ballot to me plainly said it was a rejection of Trump. Perhaps Virginia gives added fuel to my opinion. But not an endorsement for the Democrats considering the democrats lost 13 house seats, 2 state legislatures and a governorship.

A presidential candidate who wins the popular vote always brings in new house members or has since 1884. Even if the Democrats had broken even in the House instead of adding seats, they would have a 235-200 advantage. The 5-10 moderates voting no or being a thorn in the side on the 3.5 trillion bill wouldn't have meant a thing. Losing those 13 seats was a huge obstacle in pushing the Democratic agenda through the House.

I know, numbers. But numbers to me says or even dictates what is possible.

McNamara was a numbers guy. Funny thing those numbers.

Numbers are fluid and can be changed. That would require doing politics. Dems don’t do that. Dems copper strip public goods and services like public education, infrastructure, transportation etc…

Manchins daughter ripped off every school district, ambulance corps, fire department in communities all across America. Pretending Biden’s functional, he could publicly make note of that. Ask to be updated by his justice department task force looking into corporate price fixing, etc..

Wonder what those numbers would look like with the public. Wonder what the numbers are for lowering prescription drug prices. Paid family leave. Prescription glasses…

Just kidding. Clearly, the only numbers worth considering, let alone changing, are the numbers locking in fossil fuel infrastructure and corporate giveaways to buy public assets. Your numbers clearly support your politics.

One last thing bout them numbers. Anyone following the congressional index fund? A composite fund made up of stocks that our congress crooks are trading in. It’s data on share trades is a bit late as congress critters trades in stocks aren’t filed with the public immediately. Last I looked those numbers are crushing the broad index funds numbers.

Numbers are interesting not predetermining.